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Old 09-30-2004, 06:14 PM
M.A. M.A. is offline
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Kimber .38 Super

Got a new Stainless II in .38 Super, and took it to the range today. Typical Kimber good fit and finish, factory trigger broke at a smooth and crisp 4lbs. Shot 200rds with no malfunctions, and it seems to be very accurate. Tomorrow, the slide goes to Heine to replace the adjustable sights with Heinie Slant-Pro's. Hope to use this pistol in IDPA.
While at the range, someone told me you can fire 9x23mm ammo thru the .38 Super. To be honest, I have never heard of 9x23mm, and would not know if it could be fired in a .38 Super pistol. Anyone ever heard of this before?

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Old 09-30-2004, 10:11 PM
Clyde Clyde is offline
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Check out Link Here They have a section on 9x23. Lots of good info.

I ran some 9x23 thur my Kimber - it was not 100%

Congrads on you Super
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Old 09-30-2004, 10:42 PM
SuperComp9 SuperComp9 is offline
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You can BUT.

there is a little bit difference in the case dimension's
and the 9x23 is a rimless round and that is about the main
advantage to it..
but the advantage is only really gained in the high cap mags..
the single stack mags do not show that much of the advantage.

plus the brass for the 38 super is a hell of lot cheaper than the 9x23..
something to think about...
also check out..
he has built several of the 9x23 guns and kind of knows the stuff inside and out.

Good luck in all you endeavors..
Father of three
and 4-H rifle & pistol Coach

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Old 10-01-2004, 12:38 AM
M.A. M.A. is offline
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Thanks for the info. I think I'll just stick with the Super.
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Old 10-01-2004, 01:33 AM
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I had that same thought, adding a 9x23 or a 9mm Luger barrel, to my Kimber Stainless Target II 38Super. Though I am not too sure it will work with the Kimber. I checked how well my extractor holds and 9mm cases, and it does okay with the Super, but it will not hold the 9mm at all. The reason for this is how the slide is machined, the ledge in the slide for the case to press against when held by the extractor is machined too far out for the 9mm. The fit is a little loose for the Super, but it holds a 10mm (40 cal) perfectly. So for me a barrel swap probably means going bigger. But I probably will not bother trying a barrel swap and will stay with Super anyway, Super is a lot of fun and my local dealer carries Armscor ammo of 9.95 a box. So practice ammo is not an issue.

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Old 10-01-2004, 11:39 AM
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You're right Str8_Shot, and I think I'll stick with the .38 Super. I bought it for IDPA matches, and have only test fired it so far. It is accurate, inexpensive to shoot, mild recoil, and just plain fun to shoot. If I want more power, I'll shoot my .40 or .45 cal pistols.
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Old 10-01-2004, 11:58 AM
ponytrader ponytrader is offline
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just handload some nice 38 supers. the 9x23 has a very slight advantage in powder capacity.
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Old 10-01-2004, 01:26 PM
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I have run both factory Winchester and my 9X23mm reloads through a .38 Super Stainless Target II. Headspace is right on and it worked 100% without adjusting anything. Actually, the 9X23 seemed to fit the chamber properly while the chamber seems a bit generous for the .38 Super cartridge. I Chronographed a few rounds of .38S and 9X23: .38S CorBon 125 avg.1314 fps, Win 225 Silvertip avg. 1160fps. Win 9X23 125 Silvertip avg. 1376fps. The velocities seem a little low, possibly due to the freebore in the .38S barrel. I called Kimber, they indicated freebore is intentional but did not comment further. Not scientific & proves nothing but great fun.
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