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Old 06-05-2014, 12:16 PM
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Wilson Drops Bobtails

Got a heads up from George on this (thanks) and while talking with my Wilson rep today it was relayed to me again.

As of Tuesday Wilson will no longer be taking orders for bobtails.
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:21 PM
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I've heard that bells on bobtails ring
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:27 PM
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I'm not really surprised since bobtail is really more of a EB or DW thing. So much for having it your way…..
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:13 PM
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I have a bobtail truck but on the 1911 I never liked it anyway. Now for the rounded butt.... count me in.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:18 PM
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I have a bobtail truck but on the 1911 I never liked it anyway. Now for the rounded butt.... count me in.
I didn't like bobtails either until I bought an EB gun with one...
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:31 PM
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I like round butts and I cannot lie..................


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Old 06-05-2014, 01:34 PM
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I like round butts and I cannot lie..................


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Old 06-05-2014, 01:50 PM
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I guess Ed Brown wanted too much in royalties.
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:35 PM
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Great tool to have in the box and hate that Wilson is removing an option for us. For those of us with smaller hands, it provides some extra control and "feel". Count me as one who likes the bobtail!
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:56 PM
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Hmmmm....They just lost another order from me to Ed Brown. Glad I specd my Pro with one when I did.
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Old 06-05-2014, 05:02 PM
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Must be tired of paying Ed the royalties...hehehe
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:14 PM
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Must be tired of paying Ed the royalties...hehehe
There are no royalties.

We just vastly prefer the Round Butt for about a million reasons both aesthetically and performance oriented.
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:17 PM
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There are no royalties.

We just vastly prefer the Round Butt for about a million reasons both aesthetically and performance oriented.
Is full length spring one of them?

(I have no experience with bobtails and never will but I doubt you could fit a full sized spring in that mainspring housing).
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:20 PM
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Is full length spring one of them?

(I have no experience with bobtails and never will but I doubt you could fit a full sized spring in that mainspring housing).
That is a very big reason. Also the frame is slightly weaker at the msh pin hole and the drumroll....we hate being at the mercy of a vendor (Even a GREAT one like Ed Brown) for a part.
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:51 PM
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Part of owning your own company is you can go anyway you want. Wilson has chosen to drop different finishes and now bob tails. That may swing people one way or the other. It's nice to have choices. It might influence EB sales in a positive way. I have two bob tailed carry pistols and really like them. I like the look and the feel. I have shot a round butt though don't own one , yet, it is kitted. After range time with both, I would rather shoot an full size grip bob tailed carry pistol then a round butt compact pistol. Reason why my kitted is professional size.
It's also not a DW "thing" it was designed by EB. And not a love/hate thing. More of a distinctive look that appeals to some and not others.
It might cost Wilson a few sales. With their back log I think they can weather it.
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:53 PM
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Part of owning your own company is you can go anyway you want. Wilson has chosen to drop different finishes and now bob tails. That may swing people one way or the other. It's nice to have choices. It might influence EB sales in a positive way. I have two bob tailed carry pistols and really like them. I like the look and the feel. I have shot a round butt though don't own one , yet, it is kitted. After range time with both, I would rather shoot an full size grip bob tailed carry pistol then a round butt compact pistol. Reason why my kitted is professional size.
It's also not a DW "thing" it was designed by EB. And not a love/hate thing. More of a distinctive look that appeals to some and not others.
It might cost Wilson a few sales. With their back log I think they can weather it.
I am confident we will pull through and weather the storm.
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:58 PM
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Wilson's round butt MSH is far more comfortable than a bobtail anyway.

I am very fond of that part.
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:11 PM
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Wilson's round butt MSH is far more comfortable than a bobtail anyway.

I am very fond of that part.
Matter of personal preference and opinion. I own both and they are both good features.

Jim, good post.
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:37 PM
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Wilson's round butt MSH is far more comfortable than a bobtail anyway.
Stating an opinion as fact is one way to lose credibility quickly.

A round butt may be more comfortable for you, but opinions will vary widely, and there certainly seems to be a market for bobtailed 1911's...
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:40 PM
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Stating an opinion as fact is one way to lose credibility quickly.

A round butt may be more comfortable for you, but opinions will vary widely, and there certainly seems to be a market for bobtailed 1911's...


Take it easy. I certainly wouldn't want to loose credibility by expressing my favoring of that part.
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:46 PM
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That is a very big reason. Also the frame is slightly weaker at the msh pin hole and the drumroll....we hate being at the mercy of a vendor (Even a GREAT one like Ed Brown) for a part.
I figured. This is good information. Its hard to argue against facts--if the bobtail *may* compromise the reliability or longevity of a pistol, good, good riddance.

I think people are forgetting that removing vendor parts will speed up build times... if EB cant provide the parts, guns get held up in the shop. This is a good thing people... I see a pattern here... removing all out sourcing. +1 on good business decisions that will help Wilson grow.

I'm also pretty sure Wilson will still be very profitable... lol.

Any plans for an arched MSH?
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:50 PM
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Well, we never sold that many either!
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:32 PM
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Having owned a Kobra Carry and handled the WC round butt option, I definitely prefer the round butt. No pun intended. The biggest factor with EB bobtail for me is how it recoils versus a more conventional grip. The Kobra Carry has a much sharper recoil impulse versus my WC Pro. However, like others have stated, it is a highly subjective and personal feature.
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Old 06-06-2014, 12:08 AM
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I've always wondered which shape would be more likely to print under a light shirt.
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