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Old 12-07-2013, 04:11 PM
flanker08 flanker08 is offline
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Fred Kart Commander

I have been wanting a 1911 for some time and I stumbled across this today.

It is an 80 series Commander built by Fred Kart. It also has a Kart .22 conversion with it. The Bomar sight rib provides a great sight picture. I assuming is was built for Bullseye shooting.

Does anyone know anything about his builds?

Is it okay to shoot ball ammo?

I paid $1250 OTD for it, did I do okay?

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Old 12-07-2013, 04:30 PM
PM7-10 PM7-10 is offline
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That is awesome!

I think you did quite well...

Do my eyes deceive me or is it actually a Government model (5") vs a Commander (4.25")?
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:15 PM
dakotaTex dakotaTex is offline
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Yeah, the build sheet clearly says 5" barrel, so it's a Govt model.

I would have bought that in a heartbeat unless the barrel is shot out or there is some other mechanical issue. I'd want to try the grips as I have larger hands and a lot of heel rest grips are too small for me. But it looks to be in great shape and I'm a huge fan of 22 conversions. For the money to get the conversion that seems like a steal. The Kart kits usually sell for $500+.

The .45 spring is probably set-up for light loads, so I'd replace it with a 16-18# spring before shooting regular ball ammo. The ramp is also probably set up to feed wadcutter type bullets reliably which is great if you reload. All around I bet it turns out to be a great shooter.

Nice Christmas present.

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Old 12-07-2013, 06:45 PM
dakota1911 dakota1911 is offline
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That is very nice.
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:17 PM
chuntaro chuntaro is offline
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Very nice Kart set you stumbled upon. Congratulations!
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Old 12-07-2013, 11:41 PM
flanker08 flanker08 is offline
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Thanks for the replies. I'll take another look tomorrow, but I swear the slide said Commander. Maybe a mismarked Shouse. I noticed the .22 conversion slide appears to be a commander length slide.
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Old 12-08-2013, 01:50 AM
Jim Watson Jim Watson is offline
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I would not shoot hardball.
I have READ of the recoil shearing the rib screws.
It is a "wad gun" as in wadcutter target loads.
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