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Old 04-28-2012, 04:52 PM
Oaklane Oaklane is offline
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Kimber Tac Pro and a Colt Talo New Agent in 9mm, both left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Old 04-28-2012, 04:58 PM
Ky_Coal_Miner Ky_Coal_Miner is offline
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Originally Posted by zWarlord View Post
Kimber Custom II
FTE's and FTF's every single magazine, regardless of magazine used.

+1 Mine took two trips back to kimber before it would run and a little work from local gunsmith,but now runs great.
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Old 04-28-2012, 09:16 PM
car-man car-man is offline
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GSG 1911 .22lr.
Poor accuracy, using the sights seemed to just be a suggestion on my part, the pistol did what it wanted
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:55 AM
XinTX XinTX is offline
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My current ATI Titan. Weak recoil spring right out of the box. Lot of stovepipes until that was changed. Failed the recoil reverse plug. Slide stop batters up a burr on the slide. Empties eject right into your face. Barrel lockup is a joke. Sent it back to ATI where I guess it's currently gathering moss.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:20 PM
JAS JAS is offline
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Colt series 70 Government in blue - bought new around 1985. Not very accurate and feed problems were insurmountable even after a number of gunsmiths worked on it. I gave up on it and traded it for a Ruger P90 two years later. That gun worked flawlessly.

Interestingly, the gun store was broken into a month after the trade and the model 70 was lifted from the case. The unsub(s) have no idea what they got into!

I Then traded the P90 for a Glock 27 and that started the 1911 drought for me until this year when I acquired a Dan Wesson Guardian in .45 ACP. This one is a keeper - flawless and very accurate.



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Old 05-21-2012, 09:40 PM
Jdlv4_0 Jdlv4_0 is offline
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Llama Mini-Max....enough said.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:49 PM
Onegoodshot Onegoodshot is offline
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Springfield MC Operator.
machine marks length of slide at bottom of rail, hammer was out of square with slide, only one edge of hammer would hit half of firing pin!
trigger was loose. awful. made in Imbel brazil, FI Brazil.
Friday pistol! That was 4-5 years ago

Just bought a Loaded, it is fantastic!
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:12 AM
JGus JGus is offline
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Originally Posted by stellite View Post
as of this point here is how we stack up
Colt = 17
Kimber = 14
AMT = 8
Springfield = 8
Para = 7
llama = 6
old Auto Ordnance = 5
RIA = 3
metro arms = 3
Taurus = 2
Dan Wesson 1
Charles Daly 1
detonics 1
Ruger 1
Norinco 1
Star 1
Don't forget the Daisy 1911 BB gun someone mentioned.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:18 AM
chiefjefe chiefjefe is offline
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Kimber uc II
"But now I've seen the payoffs
Everywhere I look
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?"
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Old 05-26-2012, 01:55 AM
nineteenelevenfan nineteenelevenfan is offline
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Was my brand new Ruger SR1911. Got it off GB listed as "new" never fired. When I got it, it looked new, was missing one magazine and was the TIGHTEST and ROUGHEST slide I've ever felt. Almost a grinding feel and sound. Slide was so tight it would actually "hang" 1/2 open.

Took it to the range and put a few hundred rounds down the pipe. First 50 were absolute torture. FTF, FTE, FTRTB...you name it. Brass didn't pop up and out, but dribbled the slide was so tight. Even lubed it at the range. Never have done that with ANY gun before.

Got, home cleaned it and it was a bad as ever (I even manually racked the slide a few hundred times the night before the range - raw left hand)

Called Ruger on a Monday, sent it on Tuesday (their nickel), they confirmed receipt on Thursday and UPS delivered it back to me the following Tuesday. 7 day turn around. Amazing service. They replaced the entire slide and all the components and refit the new slide to frame. Feels like perfection now. Range day tomorrow and hopefully a happy ending. Excellent customer service from Ruger for making it right. Feels like I have a custom gun now.
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:15 PM
6thMardiv 6thMardiv is offline
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2012 Auto-Ordnance. Bought a new 1911a1 WW2 parkerized two weeks ago, only to find out that the standard GI and most aftermarket magazines will not work with it,only the supplied magazine will feed properly. I saved long and hard for the gun and magazines only to have this happen. Customer service, Richard and Jay basically told me that I'm outta luck. I'm pretty dissapointed with these guys.

The Phillipine High Standard .45 that I had previously was outstanding.
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:38 PM
larryf1952 larryf1952 is offline
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Originally Posted by Brian R. View Post
Come on, there must have been worse guns than Llamas...
For me, there was.

My 1911's have been...

1. Colt MKIV/Series 70 Government in 9mm (1977 vintage)
2. Springfield 1911A1 (precursor to the Mil-Spec)
3. Kimber Classic Stainless LE (1998)
4. Smith & Wesson 1911
5. Desert Eagle 1911G
6. Llama Max-I/CF (1911 "style", but not really a 1911, IMHO)

None of these were really bad guns, but the one that annoyed me the most is #1, the Colt. It flung brass straight back at my face. I'd get home after a shooting session with it, and I'd have little black spots all over my forehead from empty cases. Several times, I had cases fall into the top of my shooting glasses. That really hurts. One narrowly missed attaching itself to my cornea as it cooled down, and left a nice blister on my lower eyelid. A few years ago, I discovered how much this gun was worth, and I sold it for over 4 times its purchase price. That made it my favorite 1911 for a while.

The other 5 have been great guns...yes, even the Llama works for me. I had to detail strip the gun when it was new to clear a burr from the frame that was hanging up the trigger, but since that time, it has been 100%. Contrary to what another poster has said about his Llama's accuracy, mine will shoot with the Kimber, S&W and DE1911, all of which are wonderful, well made guns. They are obviously a cut above the Llama, but they were all about 3 times the price of the Llama.

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Old 05-30-2012, 06:27 AM
devildog8774 devildog8774 is offline
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Kimber Covert Custom II, have me more problems in the beginning. Now it works just fine, but hollowpoints seem to hurt the aluminum feed ramp.
Semper Fi
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:06 AM
Jeepzilla Jeepzilla is offline
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Do the Glock guys have a thread like this?
"Blessed is one who gives without remembering and receives without forgetting." Rabbi Eleazar, 1250 AD

"Of all the animals, man is the only one that lies." Mark Twain
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Old 05-30-2012, 02:52 PM
Golly Gee Golly Gee is offline
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Rock Island 4" GI model. Had feeding problems & sent it in for warranty work. They installed a stronger recoil spring, among other things. Feeding problems went away, but with about 400 rounds since the repair, it mushroomed the rear of the spring channel in the slide until you couldn't get the barrel out.

Local gunsmith said it was because the steel in the slide was too soft. I also fault the warranty shop for covering up whatever the true problem was by putting the stronger spring in it.
Think green------Recycle Congress!!!!
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:43 PM
Nac4788 Nac4788 is offline
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my 1911's from best to worst;

1. SA TRP AK not one failure and best fit and finish

2. DoubleStar Combat 1911 no failures to speak of, decent fit for a slapped together pistol, was rusted from poor storage when I bought it on the inside of the recoil plug and spring, I had spare parts that I use still, very accurate.

3. Dan Wesson V-bob Black Duty Treat, Had early slide lock issues, great fit, but some blems in the finish (non blem model I paid 1,900 for it)

4. Rock Island Tactical 5" everything was loose and it wasn't very reliable, the finish starting peeling back from the front sight to the ejection port after only 200 rounds and it started rusting doubly fast

5. Kimber TLE II too much money for too much headache, bad fit, great finish, barrel would get surface rust even when well oiled, very picky about which ammo it would eat.

They were all decently accurate, the TRP was dead on accurate cold bore with out having to adjust my grip or shooting stance, although the TRP was probably the best one I sold it and I still feel I sold it for the right reasons.
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Old 05-30-2012, 04:14 PM
tgun45 tgun45 is offline
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Colt Combat Commander early 1990s. Fit and finish was horrible. It jammed a minimum of one round per magazine. A gun that jams is worthless...
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Old 05-30-2012, 04:41 PM
bill5074 bill5074 is offline
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Both Kimbers I bought. FTE's FTF's and a host of other problems. Sent them back for repairs and they were never fixed properly. Covert custom and a Ultra CDP ll. Pieces of crap from the get go
Dan Wesson CBOB .45 , 1969C Browning Hi-Power 9mm
Benelli Montefeltro, 1953 Browning Superposed , Sig Sauer M11A1
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:12 PM
Kodadek Kodadek is offline
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Originally Posted by Jeepzilla View Post
Do the Glock guys have a thread like this?
Negatory Jeep...anyone who'd make such a post on a Glock forum would be cast out in a orgiastic ceremony, beaten, tarred, feathered, then they would have their soul ripped from their body and fed to Gaston Glock...this not only explains why no one on Glock forums ever make such threads but why Gaston Glock is still alive...and why hardcore Glock owners are such zombie-like toadies.

Please, to Gaston and all Glockites, the following was in jest. Please do not involve me in the aforementioned orgiastic rites as I am quite fond of my soul.

On the actual subject of bad 1911s? Nope, never so much as a hiccup.

RIA Tactical

Both of them run great, the GI turned out to be more accurate than the tactical but a family friend had a Cx4 in 9mm and I wanted it bad and he wanted a 1911 bad. Don't regret the trade but I do miss that "cheap" GI model that on a good day would print 2" groups now and again.
One man with courage makes a majority. Andrew Jackson

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:19 AM
45'r 45'r is offline
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Actually, my worst turned out to be my best. Bought an early edition steel Colt Combat Commander in late 1970 to carry in plainclothes replacing my Government Model. Fit, finish, trigger and accuracy were the worst I had ever encountered. A close friend had the same opinion of his and suggested we send the pair off to "Ed Browns Gunshop". Came back and was in use until 2008 when destroyed in a house fire. Best gun I've ever owned and got me hooked on Brown's.
To some it's just a thin blue line ..... to others it's a family crest.
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Old 05-31-2012, 05:15 PM
sullifan sullifan is offline
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Worst 1911

Springfield Armory.
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Old 05-31-2012, 05:24 PM
badquaker badquaker is offline
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para ordinance
1911's are like old motorcycles. Basic diagnostic / maintenance / repair work is part of the game. Either learn to do it, or pay someone who can.

SW1911 5", SW1911PD Gunsite 4.25", STI Gaurdian 4", Colt 1991 Compact 3.5", SW 66 2.5", SW 586 4", DW 744V 6"
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Old 05-31-2012, 06:06 PM
IronFilex IronFilex is offline
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Jeep- Glock currently has a big problem with their late 3rd gen G19/17 and most of all the current gen 4 G19/17. They redesigned the extractor and i think changed the recoil spring. Lots ofof fte and brass flying in the face. Along with some other issues. Funny thing is not all of them suffer from this. Some are 100% out of the box with the new mods. Others are sent back over and over. And from what ive read on M4carbine forum, Glock doesnt seem to be putting a whole lot of effort into fixing the issue. Weird. I have an older G19 that was a police gun and it runs 100%. I also just picked up a newer 3rd gen G17. Have yet to try it out. Hopefully its good but i bought it used and it looked as if it wasnt fired. It could have been sold or traded in for a lot of reasons. Im crossing my fingers its not because of the changes Glock made.

As for "worst 1911" it was my first. That would be the Para Worthog 10.45. Got it used and it already had a different slide from the factory. Apparently the original had cracked. That should have been my first clue, but it wasnt. After i bought it it didnt hand eject live rounds. Took it back to the store (they were great. Stood by what they sold. Sent it to Para as if from them, on their dime). It was sent out with 3the mags. Came back 3 months later with a note of what was fixed but only 1 mag. I lost conference in Para and sold the gun within a week.
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