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Old 02-06-2010, 04:56 PM
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Where are Wilson's made? (Pics)

In response to some inaccuracies posted online about the heritage of Wilson Combat slides and frames, here are some pics of our facility in Arkansas turning American forgings and billets into American made, Wilson Combat slides and frames. I can post hundreds of these pics. If anyone ever doubts the veracity of our "Made in USA" claim, please come see us, in the flesh.


Some billets getting ready to become slides



A refernce print in a machining center (Note it is in English)





Frame forgings after surface grinding

Frames in process


Final Frame machining

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Old 02-06-2010, 05:17 PM
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Great pictures! Thanks for posting.
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Old 02-06-2010, 05:17 PM
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WCR... nice pics!

Quick question... do you guys make your light rail frames as well?
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Old 02-06-2010, 05:51 PM
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Thanks WCR -- these are great pictures and great information.

I hope that someday I might be able to visit in person!
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Old 02-06-2010, 06:13 PM
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Now I'm all confused. I thought they were made in Taiwan with Chinese castings...

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Old 02-06-2010, 06:33 PM
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WCR... nice pics!

Quick question... do you guys make your light rail frames as well?
Yes. At one time we used vendors to supply some of these parts, but not for several years now.
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Old 02-06-2010, 08:42 PM
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Thanks for the pics. I am prouder of my 1911 every time pics like these are posted. My Wilson is a work of art!
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Old 02-06-2010, 08:55 PM
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Where do the billets come from?

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Old 02-06-2010, 08:58 PM
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Where do the billets come from?

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The ground?

There are only a few large commercial forging houses left in the USA. We use one of them. I can't really be more specific than that.
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Old 02-06-2010, 09:06 PM
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Found out the container they are in is from N.Y.
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Old 02-06-2010, 09:13 PM
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The ground?

There are only a few large commercial forging houses left in the USA. We use one of them. I can't really be more specific than that.
Very good.

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Old 02-06-2010, 10:36 PM
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I can't believe there are people who would think you make your slides and frames somewhere outside of Arkansas. Screw them. You guys make top notch stuff. Keep up the strong work.
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Old 02-06-2010, 11:04 PM
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Good post. Might want to send a link to this guy - If there's anyone in the industry that could benefit from a clue right about now...


http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.ph...7&page=4&pp=10

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Kimber supplied slides to Wilson Combat for about 7 yrs. I highly doubt Wilson would allow MIM slides on their pistols. Here is a good thread with a great tour of the Kimber factory including the forged slides and frames.

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=183961

Kudos to Kruzr for gathering this info for everyone in one places.




Funny thing about that dcsans...I never said they had always had MIM slides, barrels and frames, as well as all small parts...I said they currently do. As a matter of fact, the maker of their parts is Bul out of Israel if you really want to get down to the tacks of the matter. I also said I owned a Kimber...I bought it in 1998...it was forged.

Yes, they used to provide Wilson. (Now Wilson gets theirs from a South Korean company called pointtech, same as brown and nighthawk and many other companies.) The new Kimbers are not forged, unfortunatly. Now I'm done discussing this on a thread about barrel chambers. If you wish to discuss it further you may pm me and I will get back to you at my leisure.

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Old 02-07-2010, 12:17 AM
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I dunno, none of the pics show a genyooowine 'merican Arkansian running those machines. Although one must admit that the writing is indeed not in Spanish, Indian, Chinese or even Californian. But it could be a clever Wilsonian ruse trying to throw us off the scent.
And why is it you guys don't put out a calendar with pictures of really hot local girls holding your guns kind of like Dillon does?
But then again, you guys do make a darn handsome pistol.
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:23 AM
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WOW i don't think i could make a story up like that if someone paid me to.
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:41 AM
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ahh the age old frame questions,cast versus forged,usa cast-usa forged versus non usa .bottom line is quality and the bottom line.i thnik so many 1911 owners would be shocked who what and where their prized 1911 frame came from and who had their or stamped their name on it.if its good steel,preferabaly forged (but a good high quality ,properly heat treated casting is quite adequate) national match spec'd oversized 1911 frame that has either been made here or elsewhere and has conformmed to all trade laws,taxes,fees etc. man we should be happy.ever try to weld/ fix /cut match steel /etc. to get an old usgi to be even close to whats availible now to work?and guess what ?where they come from and who puts there name on them and the games played will change again you can count on it.maybe someday true handmade american 1911s will be all there is.old world and filled with pride. until then lets not quiver over crap or beliefs but be thankful fo what we have and we could have not.
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:04 AM
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and if you look at the pictures closely you know exactly what tool and die is being used to machine these parts. at least that much is guaranteed usa. now lets have some fun ever hear of a 27 argentinian colt?super quality built a few usa made?usa tooling? usa forgings? ah lots of questions ? how many springfields made in springfield? ever seen a brazillian usgi frame? i know way off the beaten question.where are wilsons made? easy-here on planet earth!
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:21 AM
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That was one seriously bizarre thread.

Half-veiled insults aimed at well-respected smiths.

Kimber's barrels, slides and frames from MIM.

Wilson's parts first made by Kimber then by some South Korean company.

Assertions all made by a gunsmith with the marvelously appropriate surname of "Chambers".

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Old 02-07-2010, 01:27 AM
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Assertions all made by a gunsmith with the marvelously appropriate surname of "Chambers".


He is also on this forum as "Joe C"

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Old 02-07-2010, 04:31 AM
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I sent him a link so he may wise up a bit.
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Old 02-07-2010, 06:14 AM
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WC on TV

I remember seeing a special on WC pistol manufacturing on an Outdoor Channel show some time ago. Anyone have a link to that show?
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:25 AM
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Good post. Might want to send a link to this guy - If there's anyone in the industry that could benefit from a clue right about now...


http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.ph...7&page=4&pp=10

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Kimber supplied slides to Wilson Combat for about 7 yrs. I highly doubt Wilson would allow MIM slides on their pistols. Here is a good thread with a great tour of the Kimber factory including the forged slides and frames.

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=183961

Kudos to Kruzr for gathering this info for everyone in one places.




Funny thing about that dcsans...I never said they had always had MIM slides, barrels and frames, as well as all small parts...I said they currently do. As a matter of fact, the maker of their parts is Bul out of Israel if you really want to get down to the tacks of the matter. I also said I owned a Kimber...I bought it in 1998...it was forged.

Yes, they used to provide Wilson. (Now Wilson gets theirs from a South Korean company called pointtech, same as brown and nighthawk and many other companies.) The new Kimbers are not forged, unfortunatly. Now I'm done discussing this on a thread about barrel chambers. If you wish to discuss it further you may pm me and I will get back to you at my leisure.

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Thanks Ted,
As you can imagine, I am familar with that thread

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Old 02-07-2010, 08:36 AM
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More Pics for the naysayers.

Frame getting machined in a CNC center



Slides getting deburred after finish machining-as you can see all slides are gauged to meet specs



Cutting the breechface



More handwork




I love this pic


Spec-Ops 9 slides are cut from billet


As are the frames-that’s not an easy frame to make, either!
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:59 AM
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Damn i wish i was a gunsmith. If you ever need someone to push a broom or clean the bathroom around there pm me.I could not wait to get to work everyday even doing those jobs.
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:28 AM
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More handwork
those look like Korean hands to me
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