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Old 04-29-2009, 05:08 PM
Mjohns Mjohns is offline
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RZ-45 Heritage

Hello all, I'm currently into the slow and painful process of choosing my first 1911 with the CBOB leading the pack. Due to availability concerns, I'm also researching some alternatives such as the RZ-45 & PM7. I've done some searches here and on other boards but haven't culled alot of info on the RZ, so I figured I would post some questions.
1) How does the RZ compare in fit and finish to the CBOB?
2) Why did they cease production the first time?
3) Were there any issues with first version or the new one?
4) Is the new version a duplicate or are there improvements?
5) Does anyone have images of the gun showing the serrated rib?
6) Can the target sights on the PM7 be replaced with fixed sights?
7) With the current low availability of said handguns should I expect to be paying close to MSRP?
Sorry if I asked too many questions. Thanks in advance for any info, opinions or suggestions!
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:37 PM
fugedaboudit fugedaboudit is offline
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The quality is top notch. The RZ-45, or heritage as its also known, is a full size 1911 with no front cocking serrations and fixed sights. I guess you could say its a Valor with in SS, but it has a cast frame. The only DW with forged frame is the Valor. The CBOB and PM-7 also have cast frames, with the PM-7 basically a target model while the RZ line is the tactical style.

An RZ-45 would be a great first 1911, as would be any of the DW pistols. You'd be starting out with a high quality, highly sought after gun! I have a few thousand rounds through my CBOB without a single malfunction.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:46 PM
dr.fireant dr.fireant is offline
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I hope to add a Dan Wesson RZ-45 Heritage to my collection.

Have you checked the DW picture thread yet? There should be some pictures of the serrated top of the slide.

You might view this thread:
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:55 PM
PirateSteve PirateSteve is offline
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I too was looking for my first 1911, and has lots of contenders that I went back and forth on. The Heritage and CBOB were in the final 3 or 4. Personally, I don't like the rib on the slide of the RZ's a whole lot, and I happened to find a Valor for a little bit more, but it came with holsters, 5 mags, 3 sets of grips, a fixed sight (which I prefer), and a good price to boot. If it wasn't for the rib, my hip would have a Heritage as it's new friend The problem isn't finding a good quality 1911, I found out...it's finding which one to get!
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:28 PM
Craig M. Arnold Craig M. Arnold is offline
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I'm happy with my new RZ-45 Heritage. The fit and finish is equal to my CBOB and PM7. I like the rail on top the slide, the lack of front cocking serrations, the front night sight and the long solid trigger. I got my Heritage through a FFL dealer that I work with for a very good price. I saw one on GunBroker earlier this week for $965.00, which was more than I paid, but still not too bad. I'd say you should be able to buy one for well under MSRP.

Here's a picture of the Heritage

Here's a picture of the top rail on the Heritage.

Here's a picture of my CBOB, PM7 and Heritage

Best regards.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:35 AM
DWCoyote DWCoyote is offline
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1) Should be equal. Only the Valor seems to get any 'special' treatment.
2) CZ bought Dan Wesson and a lot of models went away for business reasons I am sure.
3) You can't find either of them easily enough!
4) The RZ45 heritage is new and unique, and yet clean and classic. It is my favorite new model.
5) Look up to Craig's post^
6) Fusion seems to have a set but why? A PM with fixed sights is basically an RZ without the rib.
7) Expect to pay $1000-1100 for the RZ.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:49 AM
Ske1etor Ske1etor is offline
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There is a RZ-45 (well there was one a few days ago, may still be there) at my local shop. It was there when I picked up my CBOB. If it is still there in a couple of months (Doubt it, but hey... its been there for over a month now) I may pick it up.

When I got my CBOB I had a HARD time deciding. I got a call from a buddy telling me about the CBOB in stock and I went there specifically to pick it up. Had been hunting one for about a year or so. Walked in, owner grabs the CBOB (he hid it under the counter for me) and let me play with it.

Then my eyes were drawn to the Heritage. I was stuck. 1k to spend. The CBOB was $850 and the Heritage was $1015. I was looking for a new carry gun so after a good twenty minutes of drooling I went with the CBOB.

I would have carried the Heritage just the same as the CBOB but since I have been wanting a CBOB for so long I figured since I FINALLY had a CBOB in hand I shouldn't pass it up.

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