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Old 07-29-2019, 01:05 AM
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Consensus- Alloy frame, Cerakote or Anodize?

I am trying to finish a pretty neat build...
Officer's sized .38 Super,
Caspian CARBON slide,
Fusion aluminum (raw) frame, cut for RAMPED BARREL,
Schuemann 3.5" ramped barrel, Hybrid ported.

I have a local source for Cerakoting, and can specify thickness/application technique with him, and temperature control if necessary.

However, I have always had good luck with Colt's and Springfield's alloy (anodized) frames,
since I use mostly +P JHPs, and heavy recoil springs. I use proper mags, with plastic or skirted followers. Of course, these are .45s, with un-ramped barrels.

So what is the consensus on aluminum frames with (Wilson/Nowlin) ramped barrel cuts??? Do I HAVE TO send it off for anodizing, or will "better than amatuer" Cerakoting be sufficient for a carry gun build?

The carbon slide will be parkerized, or Cerakoted over park'd.

I am not a huge fan of Cerakoting, I am simply trying not to overthink/overspend on a gun that will be carried often, but probably only shot a few hundred rounds a year.
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Old 07-29-2019, 04:53 AM
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You have to send it off. However, I have never seen anyone not recommend anodizing an aluminum frame. If you just coat it, the frame will stay soft and will quickly deform and take damage.

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Old 07-29-2019, 05:17 AM
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anodize it for reasons above
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Old 07-29-2019, 07:41 AM
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No question, anodize it.
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Old 07-29-2019, 11:52 AM
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You have to send it off. However, I have never seen anyone not recommend anodizing an aluminum frame. If you just coat it, the frame will stay soft and will quickly deform and take damage.

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Quickly deform ? Explain please ?

I'm not a fan of cerakote, its paint and paint scratches, but so does every other finish I had had applied.

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Old 07-29-2019, 12:05 PM
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Quickly deform ? Explain please ?

I'm not a fan of cerakote, its paint and paint scratches, but so does every other finish I had had applied.

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Anodizing is NOT just a color finish. Its a electro-chemical process that hardness the surface for a few thou into the material.

When you see wear on an anodized finish what your seeing us just surface/cosmetic wear. Unless the wear goes into the base material it's still hard and resists both wear and oxidation. Aluminum alloy does oxidize, just not red orange rust like steel.
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:15 PM
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Interesting topic. I was wondering about this myself because I have an old Safari Arms alloy frame that I have been using as a Cold Ace host that doesn't look like it was ever completely finished out. How would one recognize clear anodizing versus raw aluminum?

Also, what about the new Colt Defenders et al that have cerakoted frames? Is that over anodizing, or just the coating by itself?
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:29 AM
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What anodizing facilities work on single items and have an FFL?

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Old 07-30-2019, 09:11 AM
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Several years ago, I looked hard at a custom build by a local shop. The big question was how to finish the aluminum receiver. Anodizing looked better than coating or plating. By the time the 'smith had lined up an anodizer, I had moved on to other projects.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:05 AM
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Evolution Armory does IonBond. Probably worth a call.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:13 AM
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What anodizing facilities work on single items and have an FFL?
This company has been recommended to me by a couple of well known pros - http://usanodizing.com/
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:42 PM
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Interesting topic. I was wondering about this myself because I have an old Safari Arms alloy frame that I have been using as a Cold Ace host that doesn't look like it was ever completely finished out. How would one recognize clear anodizing versus raw aluminum?

Also, what about the new Colt Defenders et al that have cerakoted frames? Is that over anodizing, or just the coating by itself?
Cerakote needs a surface with a little bite for it to be applied , I had a Colt alloy frame cerakoted and it had the be media blasted first , outside Only, I'm pretty sure the inside is still the original anodizing.

What Colt does now ???
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Old 08-05-2019, 06:12 PM
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I am planning on hard chroming my aluminum frame build.
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