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Old 06-20-2019, 07:08 AM
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Which 3” 9mm 1911

At present I own one 1911, a S&W pre E series 5” in 45 acp that I use for gun games. Looking for a light weight sub compact to use for a cool weather EDC. My only prior experience with this type of pistol was a Para Wharthog years ago. Not a good experience at all but from what I’ve been able to learn , in recent years several makers have “figured out” how to make a sub compact work. Would love to hear from all who have experience with this type of 1911.


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Old 06-20-2019, 07:14 AM
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DW ECO, Colt Defender/Agent, Springfield EMP. My preference would be the ECO in 9mm. Good luck!!

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Old 06-20-2019, 09:06 AM
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My recommendation would be the tried and true colt defender often copied never imitated
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:10 AM
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Dan Wesson ECO is a wonderful gun, and priced right for the quality. But I believe it is a 3.5" barrel.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:38 AM
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It's the easy question:

Springfield Armory EMP 3 9MM.

I can understand the attraction to 3" 1911 .45 ACP handguns. My only caution would be to shoot one prior to buying. Shorties are not always user friendly. And I can write from experience that there ain't a lot of separation between a full-size 1911 & a shortie. Hence, a full-size 1911 made most sense to me.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:50 AM
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Unless there's a specific need, I suggest limiting your choices to 3" pistols could be a problem. It's true that several makers have figured out how to get a degree of reliability in their 3" guns. I've reached an unscientific conclusion that a 4 1/4" slide on a shortened frame is concealable, controllable and reliable. I concede that configuration is not a pocket pistol.
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Old 06-20-2019, 11:15 AM
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I have a lot of the little guys but my favorite (while actually 3.3") is the Sig Ultra Nitron. Never failed me once and I carried it in leather for 4 years and the finish still looks new.
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Old 06-20-2019, 11:20 AM
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Colt Defender , reliable and accurate with just about any ammo you shove through it .
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Old 06-20-2019, 11:39 AM
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Another vote for the Colt Defender!
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Old 06-20-2019, 12:13 PM
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It's the easy question:

Springfield Armory EMP 3 9MM.

I can understand the attraction to 3" 1911 .45 ACP handguns. My only caution would be to shoot one prior to buying. Shorties are not always user friendly. And I can write from experience that there ain't a lot of separation between a full-size 1911 & a shortie. Hence, a full-size 1911 made most sense to me.


Original post asks about 3” 9mm. A 3” 45 light weight is too much for me! Not deluding myself.


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Old 06-20-2019, 12:14 PM
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Unless there's a specific need, I suggest limiting your choices to 3" pistols could be a problem. It's true that several makers have figured out how to get a degree of reliability in their 3" guns. I've reached an unscientific conclusion that a 4 1/4" slide on a shortened frame is concealable, controllable and reliable. I concede that configuration is not a pocket pistol.


There is a specific need for a 3”. I carry strictly AIWB. Due to body type, that’s what’s comfortable.


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Old 06-20-2019, 01:03 PM
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I don't want a 3" 45 buy But I did buy and fired 400 rounds threw a 9mm Kimber alloy framed stainless slide ultra when my wife claimed it as hers . She uses 9 rounds etm mags for carry a 10 round extended as back up Changed the grips to thin grips and a short trigger for my wife and some tuning for a 3.5lb trigger . Been 100% reliable for 2000+ rounds so far and the ultra two tone can be bought in the upper 600/ low 700 and the stainless 40 to 50 bucks higher dollar range . I ended up buying a lw commander in 45 and the 2 ounce difference in empty weight means nothing .

I think the sig and colt or 3.21" barrels and I know the Kimber ultra 9mm is .

And being a real 1911 everything grip and control wise is adjustable / tunable !
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:11 PM
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Also with the Defender you don't need any breakdown tools and you can get the dual recoil replacement springs from Wolf Springs cheap .
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:11 PM
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I bought a Kimber Ultra Aegis II (3", 9mm) about 10 years ago. It took about two trips to the factory but we got it working perfectly. It runs great and meets my expectations accuracy-wise and reliability-wise. I can recommend this little pistol wholeheartedly. I haven't check lately, so I'm not sure if Kimber still lists that model.

Also owned a Colt Defender in 45acp. Absolutely flawless from day one. I can endorse a Defender in addition to the Kimber.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:16 PM
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I have a Colt Defender I bought new in 2010 and it has been great with different types of 9mm ammo.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:21 PM
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SA EMP 9mm and don't look back......A Colt Defender will do you well also.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:33 PM
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I have a Sig 1911 Ultra Compact in 9mm with the traditional slide. Very well made and reliable. My EDC with HST 124 gr.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:36 PM
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I have a Kimber Micro 9 I love. It took some work to get running right. I can hit well with sights or Laser grips. It’s my daily carry.

3” barrel, 6 shot or 7 +1 if you want.

Next up in my LW 3.5” officers ACP.

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Old 06-20-2019, 03:38 PM
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I have both, a Sig P938 and an EMP. Both extremely reliable and controllable. Today's market probably around $700 for either.
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Old 06-20-2019, 05:11 PM
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I would say Cold Defender / New Agent. I love my Detonics but they can be temperamental.

I would have to play with an EMP in 9mmP and give it a try if I ever came across a cheap used one.
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Old 06-20-2019, 06:32 PM
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I have 2 SA 3" EMP's, 1 in 9mm & 1 in .40. Both guns have performed very well & have never missed a beat! The 9mm is easy to carry, the .40 cal is significantly heavier.

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Old 06-20-2019, 08:29 PM
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Another vote for the Colt Defender!
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Old 06-20-2019, 08:34 PM
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I have the S&W 3" Pro Series in 45acp. It eats anything I feed it. I love that little gun.
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Old 06-21-2019, 05:13 AM
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Another vote for the Springfield Armory EMP. I’m really happy with mine.
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:20 AM
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Which 3" 1911

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... Looking for a light weight sub compact to use for a cool weather EDC. ...from what I’ve been able to learn , in recent years several makers have “figured out” how to make a sub compact work. Would love to hear from all who have experience with this type of 1911.

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You don't mention caliber or other traits, but I would unhesitatingly recommend the Springfield EMP in 9mm. It's abou the same weight as a Glock 19, but much more compact. It disappears into my (overweight) hip in a Kramer IWB #2 and easily and comfortably carried all day.

Shooting it is a dream, low recoil, tack sharp accurate to 25 yds, which is my limit, not the gun's. I was also impressed that "most everything's there" -- that is I did not feel the need to make any changes, although I would have liked front strap checkering, I'm shooting fine without it. Literally nothing else IMO needs to be changed, sights are good, 9+1 magazine is most for it's class. I can't recall the last malfunction, although I take care to clean it after every use.

Nice balance between weight and recoil reduction and if you have smaller fingers, the scaled down size is perfect. If you have large hands, then be sure to test it, and consider the bigger models, Champion, for example.
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