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Old 05-09-2019, 08:23 AM
DAKA DAKA is offline
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A 1911 for the RANGE 9mm

i've decided to add a FULL SIZE 1911 to my "collection"....
My other guns are mostly 9 mm compacts.
I went to a rental range as a start to see what 1911's felt like..and started with a ROCK ISLAND.... this gun was easy to rack pretty heavy and was ugly and filthy....clean the rental guns, I inquired, ......when they stop shooting was the reply.
So I fired 50 rounds of "their" ammo (must use theirs) and I was amazed at MY accuracy...better than any of my own guns.....
Now the search starts....
I know what asking for suggestions is like...but...gotta start somewhere and filter through the b/s....so.....let the "FUN" begin
AND tnx Daniel
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:13 PM
jsirles jsirles is offline
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Dan Wesson Pointman Nine. Very nice, somewhat inexpensive, 5" range 1911.
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Old 05-09-2019, 04:15 PM
TRSOtto TRSOtto is offline
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I've got 4 9mm 1911's. A Colt S80 Competition gun, a Colt Gold Cup Trophy, an Ed Brown and a Baer Mono Heavyweight.

All are great guns, but come range time, the Baer is just too much fun. No recoil to speak of and it shoots teeny tiny groups.
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Old 05-09-2019, 04:38 PM
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Mine is the Springfield Target in 9mm. I bought it second hand and it has been flawless. It has never failed to fire and is stupid accurate. When I take a newb to the range, that's my choice. All stainless and shoots 9mm. It shoots softer than a 22.
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Old 05-09-2019, 04:41 PM
DWARREN123 DWARREN123 is offline
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I have a RIA standard full size 9mm and really like it. Shoots great but also a inexpensive pistol to "improve on" if so desired.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:10 PM
Striker2237 Striker2237 is offline
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Mine is a fullsize all steel CQB-E, I bought it and mainly use it for IDPA since there is no felt recoil and nearly no sight deflection. Also quite accurate freehanded at 15 yards

Carry gun:Wilson Carry Comp Custom .45S Pocket carry:on loan Other 1911s:WC Supergrade Accucomp .38, WC BW Opticomp, WC CQB Compact, WC CQB Professional, WC Super Sentinel, WC CQB Elite 9mm, WC EDC X9, WC X9S, Ed Brown SR, NHC Predator II Opticomp, NHC T3 Hardchrome, Kimber Ultra, ATI Tactical, RIA Tactical 10mm, Kimber Ultra Diamond 9mm, Detonics Combat Master MKVI, Colt Centennial .460 Roland

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Old 05-09-2019, 06:33 PM
chrysanthemum chrysanthemum is online now
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A lot of well-built 1911s chambered in 9mm can be found.

Still, there is the tendency to get what you pay for.

In other words, figure out what you're willing and/or expecting to spend before going too far down the selection pathway. Under $1,000 won't get you $2,000+, $3,000+, etc., build/component quality. But if basic serviceability is all you're seeking, you can likely find something that's a fair value for a not so high cost. E.g., happy RIA customers can be found in many places.

I'm primarily a Wilson customer, but for examples of what's available in mid-range cost categories, I think DW and S&W have pretty good value offerings. My quite old S&W 9mm 1911 (external extractor) has run and run and run...no problems ever. Pretty nice fit and finish as well.

In 9mm, I would give some thought as to whether you prefer the traditional internal extractor or an external extractor. It is a different hook "reach" than for a 45acp chambering and this can sometimes affect things such as ease of disassembly.
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Old 05-09-2019, 09:35 PM
bmcgilvray bmcgilvray is offline
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I've never been a huge fan of the 9mm and had always thought the cartridge really ought to stay out of the 1911-gun. Some 12-15 years ago I spent an enchanted afternoon with an older Colt Government Model Series 70 9mm and found it to be magical to shoot. The experience changed my notions of 9mm in 1911s. Was offered that Colt, but passed at the time and had regretted it ever since.

More recently I acquired a near duplicate of that 9mm Government Model I'd enjoyed that day. I have had it out shooting twice now. Yep, the magic's still there. I really enjoy it as something just a bit different and a great way to burn through cheap-o factory 9mm ammunition. So far the pistol feeds everything I've tried in it, fmj or hollow point. Seems well-mannered an unfussy.

I'll be saving the .45s for serious work. This one is a range toy and a plinking pistol for out at our old family place on the lake. It'll be carefully transported in a padded zippered bag when it goes out and won't be seeing the inside of a holster.

Still not real well acquainted with the 1911-gun in 9mm, but it just has to be one of the best, most elegant ways to do 9mm since the Luger.

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Old 05-10-2019, 04:35 AM
DubfromGa DubfromGa is offline
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I've had a 9mm Range Officer 5" for a couple years now.

Nothing but positive comments about it.
Proud to be a Deplorable.....
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Old 05-10-2019, 05:22 AM
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Well, since you are not new to guns, perhaps you would really like to "customize" your new 1911 by picking a fusion firearms 9 mm just the way you want it. Pricing ranges from 600 to lots more but you don't have toowait a year to get it.
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:43 AM
K38 K38 is offline
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I have 2 full size 9mm 1911s, a Pointman 9 and Nighthawk Trooper. The PM has never been very reliable, but as a range gun it's fine. Good sights, good trigger. The NHC is a few steps up, but twice as expensive. What are you willing to spend?
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:02 AM
Jim Watson Jim Watson is online now
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I'd hang on until Alchemy got out the Prodigy 9mm.

My most often shot 9mm is a Springfield. It is a Mixmaster with parts from two different models, but you would be close with a Range Officer or Loaded Target.
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:04 AM
havanajim havanajim is online now
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The Springfields are solid performers, either the RO or the Loaded versions. Decent value for what you get, particularly if you go 2nd-hand, as I usually do. If you're experienced with firearms, buying 'used' should be no problem. Now, if S&W would ever get off their duffs and make an E-Series in 9mm, then that will likely become my #1 recommendation. Until that time, though, it's the Springfields.... then perhaps the Colts. Of course, you can always double, triple and quadruple this price range if you wish, but that's solely up to you. Who knows, for an extra $1k or $2k, you might just a group that's 0.013ths of an inch tighter at 15yds!!!!!
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:17 AM
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I rented a Springfield RO for a while and like it a lot..very accurate. I was going to get a DW Pointman 9 but ended up with a CZ Shadow 2. Now that I read the range report for the Alchemy, I'll try to save up for when it comes out in a 9mm.
Surprised to hear the DW PM 9 is not reliable?
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Old 05-10-2019, 02:53 PM
CyberDyneSystems CyberDyneSystems is offline
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Why don't you tell us your price range.
We can make suggestions from below $500.00 up to $4k+ easily
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Old 05-10-2019, 02:58 PM
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Donít short change the commander size for 9mm; I love my DW Specialist. Itís by far the best shooter in my collection and has been 100% reliable. After this I donít see the need for that extra slide length in a 9. Good mags are the key.

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Old 05-10-2019, 05:12 PM
Charles68 Charles68 is offline
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No problems with this one. Lovn' the 1911 in 9mm.

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Old 05-10-2019, 05:52 PM
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9mm 1911 Full Size

We have two 9mm 1911 at the compound:

Citadel full size - my boy's

Auto Ordnance (Kahr) full size - mine

Both have been great and inexpensive. Citadel was bought on sale for $330 and the Auto Ordnance was ~$500. Both mail order and from Bud's.
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Old 05-10-2019, 06:41 PM
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Dan Wesson Vigil. Great value for the quality you'll get.
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Old 05-11-2019, 06:09 AM
Rwehavinfunyet Rwehavinfunyet is offline
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5" full size 9mm range gun.....

I purchased a RIA Officer size 9mm that was very accurate, even though I had to contend with a much shorter sight radius. Because the guns are made in the Phillipines where the cost of labor is substantially less, they are usually a very good retail price and value.

I would not hesitate to buy a RIA full size 9mm, and have the gun refinished if you don't like a Parkerized finish.... you may want to check out the complete line of RIA guns at the following link:

www.armscor.com The abbreviations for FS, MS, and CS signify a Full Size, Mid Size, or Compact size pistol.
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:13 AM
SCfromNY SCfromNY is offline
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I bought a Kimber Stainless Target for about $800. Now before all the Kimber haters jump on it remember it is a 9mm. I have had Kimbers and for me their biggest problem was shooting JHPs. Like most 1911 9mm's there a feed ramp which is great. My Raptor served me well in USPSA.

The Kimber 9mm has been flawless, accurate with all ammo, and very easy to shoot. If I hah any complaint it would be that the mags are very difficult to load to capacity. BUT, that goes for Wilson's as well as Kimber. My friend has a STI Spartan 1911 9mm that works great and is very inexpensive.

Both guns are excellent first 1911 9mm.
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