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Old 02-28-2020, 07:44 AM
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New Browning High Power Website Idea....

So I took a short break from the BHP section of this forum. While I was away I was mulling over the idea of creating a New Browning High Power website similar to what the late Mr. Camp used to have. His site which I believe is still maintained by his widow is great but it is now static. It is also somewhat incomplete when it comes to a lot of the information people are looking for like DOB info, rollmark info etc...

Not everyone has access to Anthony Vanderlinden's FN Browning Pistols or R Blake Stevens The Browning High Power Automatic Pistol. IMHO these are the two authoritative books on the history of the Browning High Power.

We all can do Google searches but the info these days is scattered to the winds. It is hard to find the info people are looking for. The same questions get asked over and over again here and on other forums. It seems like it would be better to have place that consolidates a lot of the info people are looking for. I would hope to coax some people like Burgs, SubMoa and others to help with the content. I would love to get insight from people like Don Williams and Ted Yost about what makes the BHP good and how to make it great.

So I am thinking about building and maintaining a site dedicated to the BHP. I would honor those who came before me and would link to Mr Camps site and still highly recommend purchasing the products there. I would properly site the books listed above but put a more modern electronic world spin on the information.

I would love to build a database of good custom gunsmiths who work on BHPs like Yost, Williams, Garthwaite, Burton, Sokol, Novak etc... There isn't good info on how to approach building a full house custom BHP or even a lightly tuned one.

It would have section on grips, mags sights etc.... It could have a question and answer section and maybe down the road a Youtube channel which could include videos. At this point I am not looking to sell stuff but instead be a resource supply solid information and linking to places where BHP owners can get the products they are looking for.

What do people think? What type of information would you like to see on a website devoted to the Browning High Power? At this point I am just kicking the idea around. I have not decided if and when I will proceed. Thanks in advance for your time and your thoughts.
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Old 02-28-2020, 08:04 AM
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I'd like to see you do it.
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Old 02-28-2020, 10:37 AM
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Sounds like a fine idea. But, rather than dispersing information through yet another hard-to-find web site....why not work with the Administrators of this site for ways & means of incorporating more specific and detailed information here ??
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Old 02-28-2020, 10:45 AM
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Sounds like a fine idea. But, rather than dispersing information through yet another hard-to-find web site....why not work with the Administrators of this site for ways & means of incorporating more specific and detailed information here ??
It is a control issue with content and clarity. I actually think that a properly built website with proper tags and a proper domain is going to create more traffic which will have higher visibility than this section of this forum. Also this sites searches on Google are often muddy and unclear.
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Old 02-28-2020, 01:50 PM
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I think it is a great idea.

Right now there is so much information on websites and various forums, with much content being credible, yet some information can be confusing or misleading as well as being hard to find or search for. Having a singular website destination with credible and dependable Hi Power content/research information from known collectors and recognized specialists for FAQs, discussions, dating, models, repairs, holsters, smiths, parts, sights, grips, functionality, etc would be extremely useful to all levels of collectors and shooters of Hi Powers.

Should you decide to proceed and need volunteers, just let me know, I would be happy to help.
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Old 02-28-2020, 03:46 PM
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Hi, I no longer go to Mr Camps old forum (https://www.handgunsandammunition.com) or the FN Forum (https://fnforum.net/) as it's a ghost town. If you build it; I will come, ,regards, Mike
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Old 02-28-2020, 05:36 PM
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"If you build it, he will come". Field of Dreams. 1989
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Old 02-28-2020, 06:43 PM
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This one is a recent attempt at much the same thing, but it has become a bit of a ghost town: https://highpowercollectors.proboards.com/forum
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Old 02-28-2020, 09:03 PM
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Oddly enough, I was under the impression that some of the most knowledgeable authorities, collectors, fans and students of the venerable Browning Hi Power pistol were active participants on THIS forum. Am I wrong ??...Are those participants here that most frequent members on this forum know and respect (from their remarkable command of the available material and experience and willingness to share it) all frauds and posers ??
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Old 02-28-2020, 09:40 PM
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This one is a recent attempt at much the same thing, but it has become a bit of a ghost town: https://highpowercollectors.proboards.com/forum
I think a message board that relies completely on the interaction of the membership is putting the cart before the horse.
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Old 02-28-2020, 09:44 PM
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Oddly enough, I was under the impression that some of the most knowledgeable authorities, collectors, fans and students of the venerable Browning Hi Power pistol were active participants on THIS forum. Am I wrong ??...Are those participants here that most frequent members on this forum know and respect (from their remarkable command of the available material and experience and willingness to share it) all frauds and posers ??
Some the people who post here know their stuff but over the last 3 year collectively we have lost more knowledge then we have gained IMHO as direct result of the ownership and moderation of this board.

That opinion might get be banned but I believe 100% in that truth. A rep from a sponsor of the board got into it with a group of the most knowledgeable members of the forum and the owners of the board sided with the sponsor rep and kicked the other members off the board. Later they realized their mistake and offered to allowed some of those members to return but they choose to move on.

#burgs #submoa + others.
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Old 02-29-2020, 08:12 AM
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I frequent a couple of forums that are Browning related. The Hi Power sub forums are pretty much dead. Maybe a new post a week.
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Old 02-29-2020, 08:50 AM
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I think a message board that relies completely on the interaction of the membership is putting the cart before the horse.
Isn't that what most message boards, this one included, are?

Note that the admins over there did put together quite a bit of information on the Hi-Power right up front, there is a considerable amount of reference material to be had.
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Old 02-29-2020, 09:05 AM
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Isn't that what most message boards, this one included, are?

Note that the admins over there did put together quite a bit of information on the Hi-Power right up front, there is a considerable amount of reference material to be had.
Yes that is exactly what message boards are which is why it failed over there. Not enough people contributing meaningful content one a regular basis to drive traffic. I mean even here, which is the most active BP section of any message board, it sometimes takes weeks to get a question answered. A static website will be looked by a lot more people. The hope would be that people would be able to Google a questions and have a link pop up that they can click on and read an article and have their questions answered. It will not depend on someone seeing the question and then answering it. Lots of people I would say the majority of people want to be able to google search find the info they are looking for without necessarily joining a forum and interacting with people. Maybe I am wrong but I think a updated version of what Mr. Camp did would fill a void.

So many people still reference that site and talk about it as one of the original sources for BHP info but it has not been updated in forever. It is not laid out in a modern way. It is dated in its format and it layout. Again this is just a thought I have been kicking around. There was some good info upfront but I think the format killed it. Searching through threads looking for the info you want is not the best format to present the information. IMHO. I think that the message board format is dying outside of places like reddit which is harder to follow IMHO. Younger shooters are not joining them. I very active forum I am on did a poll a month of 2 ago and I think the avg age of the users was over 45.
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Old 02-29-2020, 03:06 PM
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I hear you.

The problem is, most younger people don't want an 80+ year old design, preferring the plastic fantastics. If it isn't "tacticool" then it is yesterday's leftovers.

I agree that Steve Camp's material is 2nd to none. Possibly his widow could be convinced to allow as facelift and update of his information?
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Old 02-29-2020, 03:15 PM
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I like your idea rellascout. Though the BHP is a niche market compared to modern wondernines it's been around since 1935. I think there would be more than enough interest to support such an endeavor.
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Old 02-29-2020, 10:59 PM
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It sounds as if you' d like to take up where the remarkable Mr. Camp left off. If so, I can certainly applaud the desire. The amount of time, research and dedication such an endeavor properly would take would be heroic. Even with Mr. Camp's previous endeavors and Mr. Vanderlien's work as guides...drawing the loose threads together and untangling some of the additional '..mysteries..' into some sort of logical and practical order would take remarkable time, effort and energy.

But I still think that using this Hi Power forum as the place to access such scholarship is the natural choice. Given that Mr. Camp's method seemed to be educational essays on particular topics, that might be the way to go...utilizing your own as well as the scholarship, experience and advice from other knowledgeable Hi Power enthusiasts as...''Sticky's..' to this forum...perhaps in collaboration with other enthusiasts for a broader base of information and ideas and sharing the burdens of proper research.

Beginning with a couple/few topics per year, i.e. '..Unraveling the mysteries of Dating Your Hi Power..'...'..Guide to '..customizing..' your Hi Power..'...etc.
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Old 03-01-2020, 12:50 AM
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I can't take it any more. What is with this "Mr." stuff? Whats next, the Higher Power?
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Old 03-01-2020, 10:01 AM
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I can't take it any more. What is with this "Mr." stuff? Whats next, the Higher Power?
So, what exactly is wrong with giving '..Steve..' and '..Tony..' the respect they deserve for their valued contributions they've made to the Hi Power community ??

"..Higher Power..' is a term most usually associated with Alcoholics Anonymous and other associated 12 step addiction recovery programs...(though for some Hi Power enthusiasts, I suppose it might be applicable...'..H-P Anon..' ??)
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Old 03-01-2020, 01:39 PM
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Just pointing out that one doesn't need to use a title to demonstrate respect. Of course Steve and Tony have my respect, as do Ed Brown, Les Baer and Albert Einstein among others.
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Old 03-02-2020, 09:38 AM
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I applaud your intent-I think it's a great idea. Most High Power forums/forum content is geared towards collection and appreciation, as opposed to actual use-which was where Stephen Camp excelled.

Obviously there would need to be a balance. You certainly have the experience and gravitas to carry it off.

Best, Jon
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Old 03-02-2020, 08:00 PM
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A fantastic idea. As you noted, Hi Power resources are hard to find these days...
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Old 03-02-2020, 10:16 PM
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>>>...Of course Steve and Tony have my respect...<<<

As they do mine (and a great many other Hi Power enthusiasts)....and that's the way I chose to express it. You're certainly entitled to express yours any way you like.
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Old 03-03-2020, 08:00 AM
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I think this would be great idea !

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Old 03-03-2020, 03:17 PM
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I like the idea.
Maybe a DIY/gunsmith section......
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