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Old 02-27-2020, 02:36 PM
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Wilson to stop making 38 Super, 40 SW, and 460 Rowland...

...once supply of barrels in these calibers is gone. Just got the e-mail from Wilson Combat. So glad I got the Super Sentinel I always wanted direct from Wilson in December 2019!

Guess itís going to eventually be a .45/9mm world =(.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:40 PM
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This just really blows my mind. Just read the email myself. I feel like .38 Super has been gaining popularity versus what it was 10 years ago. But I suppose not. Very disheartening.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:43 PM
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Haven’t received the e-mail yet but very surprised that the .38 Super is included. Not at all surprised about the .40 cal.

When I ordered my 9mm CQB Commander in early 2017 they did not offer a .38 Super barrel for it as I wanted a dual 9mm/.38 Super. They just came out with a Commander .38 Super barrel a year ago. I may have to order one for it while they are still available.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:53 PM
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That's surprising. .38s is a historic caliber for the 1911 and for Wilson after all, guess I'm gonna need to send my 9mm in for a barrel or two and my super sentinel in for a spare
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Old 02-27-2020, 04:09 PM
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Glad I got my WC 38 Superb when I did. I may order one and see if I can have it built, since no more will be coming soon!
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Old 02-27-2020, 04:22 PM
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Must admit that I'm not applauding this decision.

I can understand the 40S&W going into the sunset, but not the others.
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Old 02-27-2020, 04:28 PM
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Must admit that I'm not applauding this decision.[IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/frown.gif[/IMG]

I can understand the 40S&W going into the sunset, but not the others.
I'm sad about .460, I'm enjoying my colt so much I was considering a optics hunter
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Old 02-27-2020, 04:38 PM
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It is likely that there were very few orders for these any more, I don't know. But, I don't think they would drop the .38 Super if there were sufficient orders for them, so I must assume that order for these three calibers were not enough to keep them in the line-up.
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Old 02-27-2020, 05:05 PM
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...once supply of barrels in these calibers is gone. Just got the e-mail from Wilson Combat. So glad I got the Super Sentinel I always wanted direct from Wilson in December 2019!

Guess it’s going to eventually be a .45/9mm world =(.
Yea, just got it, I have a 38S by WC, Turnbull Man, and Infinity. Sad to see it go though, I was contemplating getting a 38S SG soon.

I raise you one though, eventually, in say 5 years, WC will just be a 9mm shop (he has 45 on the path to "use-to-be"). And if not completely, likely in the main. Part of the "dubbing-down" of America ;-).
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Old 02-27-2020, 05:08 PM
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Not happy to see .38 Super going.....
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Old 02-27-2020, 05:31 PM
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Still wondering how a .38 Super shoots, I've always heard it's a joy, fast and powerful. I guess I should just break down and buy one in a Colt or something that doesn't break the bank so i can find out for myself.

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Old 02-27-2020, 05:45 PM
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It must be just a supply/demand numbers percentages decision on wilsons part with each caliber. Regarding 38 super, I’m glad I’ve already got mine... At a point, I’m sure they’d bring it back if there was a call for it

Btw, (Nick) 38 super is a great and fun caliber to shoot.
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Old 02-27-2020, 06:03 PM
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It must be just a supply/demand numbers percentages decision on wilsons part with each caliber. Regarding 38 super, Iím glad Iíve already got mine... At a point, Iím sure theyíd bring it back if there was a call for it

Btw, (Nick) 38 super is a great and fun caliber to shoot.
And it is a reloader's dream!
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Old 02-27-2020, 06:25 PM
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That does not make sense. Colt must still be selling them, because it seems Colt drops options and models if they don't make money. Confused.
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Old 02-27-2020, 06:28 PM
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That does not make sense. Colt must still be selling them, because it seems Colt drops options and models if they don't make money. Confused.
Price point may have something to do with it. Just guessing here.
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Old 02-27-2020, 07:52 PM
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I have a lightweight professional in 38 Super that I took to a Vickers class and it was a hit with not only me but many others there.

Kinda sad Wilson is dropping the 38 Super.
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Old 02-27-2020, 07:54 PM
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On another forum, a dealer said he was told by Wilson they only produced 10 38 supers last year, seems near impossible but...

I have a flock of them with the last one, a Colt Commander from the 70's, was sent to Nighthawk today for a complete update and overhaul. They are going to mill the frame, add a ramped barrel, serrate the front strap, sights, french border, flatten the slide-top and add the NH Classic arrow pattern and coat the whole thing in smoked nitride.

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Old 02-27-2020, 08:26 PM
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This thought probably belongs in the category of older folks reminiscing about the past...and I "get" that. Still:

What we might be seeing is a movement within Wilson Combat towards those non-1911 firearms that appeal to many persons for carry purposes and sell better than the more boutique 1911 designs (e.g., 38 Super-chamberings) which admittedly have a niche market. Price is probably one factor, but likely not the main factor (on the consumer side). It's difficult to deny the current popularity of 9mm chambered pistols designed for CC (whether 1911, quasi-1911, or other), and Wilson has been responding to that demand.

I admit that at least a part of me has some sadness about this business move (and that's obviously what it is) putting an end to some really superb 1911 offerings of a more boutique/niche nature, in favor of more mass appeal non-1911 pistols. Those superb boutique 1911 offerings have always been part of the appeal of Wilson Combat IMHO.... regardless of whether they were profit makers from a cost accounting standpoint.

I hate to see them depart; I think something intangible, something not quantifiable in one, two, or three years of accounting numbers, is being lost.
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Old 02-27-2020, 08:38 PM
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If everyone who praises the 38 Super actually bought one, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Old 02-27-2020, 09:05 PM
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If everyone who praises the 38 Super actually bought one, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
No question that you're exactly right here TRS.

If one purchase by me would have made a difference, and if I'd known about all of this, I would have re-sequenced my most recent Wilson purchases to include a 38 Super-chambered 1911.

I suppose one could say that I could buy one now, but unfortunately that wouldn't change anything regarding Wilson's decision to discontinue. I'll guess that discontinuation of WC 38 Super ammo/WC 460 Rowland ammo/any other items specific to these chamberings will soon follow.
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Old 02-27-2020, 09:43 PM
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I'm fond of this WC .38 Super
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Old 02-27-2020, 09:53 PM
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Sad to read.

While my favorite pistol is a Wilson .38 Super, I must admit, I've yet to run across anyone else shooting a .38 Super at any range or class I've attended.

...and I must further admit that I'm awaiting delivery of my first 9mm 1911 (a WC) bc I don't have time to reload and would like a few more readily available ammo options for a range gun.
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:18 PM
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I perfer .38 to 9mm and the only reason I even have a 9mm Wilson is because mine was NIB for $1800 and the X9 doesn't come in .38, I do prefer it and have bought a few. 9mm is too weak for the platform, required a lot of tweaking to perform well for me and is still not as unflinchingly reliable as .45 or .38

I'm going to have a .38 barrel added to my 9mm as I was planing on it already but now it's on a timeframe
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:44 PM
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I think I’ll put a call out for a used Super shooter grade from an original owner. I've been over spendy lately.
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This announcement has got me thinking of a back burner project: my old Kimber stainless full size had been calling out for a comped barrel and mag well for a few years now; may have to investigate that possibility.
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