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Old 02-19-2020, 11:49 AM
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Sight Pusher Advice Requested

I have two Springfield Armory Government size 1911s, two sets of Novak sights and a set of SA Novak clones.
I am considering juggling the sights around and have zero experience with this.
The clone sights came on a TRP and Novak did not charge for machining when they installed their own sights in the slide. Therefore I assume the original clones will fit back in the TRP.
I would then put the genuine Novaks that were installed on the TRP on a Professional which came with Novak sights. Original PRO sights into storage.
Sorry for the novel but I want to make the job clear.

I don't want to screw anything up using crap tools but pro level tools aren't required either. I'm not interested in doing it with hammer and punch.

Any suggestions or tips for tools and techniques are appreciated.

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Old 02-19-2020, 12:37 PM
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File the sights to fit, use a drift. Mask off ends of drift to keep from damaging the sights or the slide. Go slow.

New sights are usually oversized on 1911s.


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Old 02-19-2020, 04:59 PM
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I've used this on a few different handguns. Worked great on my 1911 rear sight. I didn't try the front sight becasue I didn't need to, but It worked front and rear on other handguns.
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Old 02-19-2020, 05:09 PM
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I've been using one similar to this for years:
Google "HJP Products Sight Pusher Universal Adjustment Tool".
I picked it up for around $35 bucks and have done a couple dozen sight jobs on various makes, including 1911s, Sig P Series, Glocks & Springfields...
I use business cards between the metal pieces and have never scratched a slide...
I've also loaned it out to buddies, and they have had success as well....
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Old 02-19-2020, 06:51 PM
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The pin that holds the front sight, does it need to be replaced after removal? Anyone know what size it is?
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Old 02-19-2020, 07:49 PM
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Upon further study it seems sights need to be fitted. My idea of swapping sights, even of the same brand, from gun to gun may not be a good one. Is it?
Maybe this is the first question I should have asked.
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Old 02-19-2020, 07:56 PM
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Upon further study it seems sights need to be fitted. My idea of swapping sights, even of the same brand, from gun to gun may not be a good one. Is it?
Maybe this is the first question I should have asked.
Thanks.

That is correct.


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Old 02-19-2020, 09:46 PM
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I don't want to screw anything up using crap tools but pro level tools aren't required either. I'm not interested in doing it with hammer and punch.
A hammer and punch, combined with a proper bench vise are "pro tools."

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Old 02-20-2020, 06:09 AM
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The pin that holds the front sight, does it need to be replaced after removal? Anyone know what size it is?
They were 1/16Ē roll pins on my Springers. I have some anyway but they should be reinstalled either new or saved and reused. IMHO
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:48 AM
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Thanks, Joe. My 1/16" punch felt right but it's better not to guess.
Maybe a cheap beater gun would be good to practice on. I have angst thinking about doing certain procedures involving hammers and punches for the first time on expensive guns.
Novak has a good tutorial on sight removal/installation. They caution against using sight pushers on their sights which reinforces what SFSMedic posted. Thanks, Brett.
Now I'm thinking I will leave the gold dot and black low profile adjustable rear sight in place and have Novak install a tritium bar low profile adjustable rear with white outline front on the other gun.
We'll see what my fickle thoughts are tomorrow.
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Old 02-20-2020, 06:05 PM
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If you look in the forum classified section, I produce sight pushers at a very reasonable price and they have a real good track record. Or look at www.sightpushertool.com
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:10 PM
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Thanks, Joe. My 1/16" punch felt right but it's better not to guess.
Maybe a cheap beater gun would be good to practice on. I have angst thinking about doing certain procedures involving hammers and punches for the first time on expensive guns.
Novak has a good tutorial on sight removal/installation. They caution against using sight pushers on their sights which reinforces what SFSMedic posted. Thanks, Brett.
Now I'm thinking I will leave the gold dot and black low profile adjustable rear sight in place and have Novak install a tritium bar low profile adjustable rear with white outline front on the other gun.
We'll see what my fickle thoughts are tomorrow.
Iíd sure like to hear their reasoning for cautioning against sight pushers. The tools I build work better on Novak sights than some of the itty bitty ones. Matter of fact, Iíve never had a problem adjusting or R&R a Novak sight.
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Old 02-25-2020, 01:37 PM
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Iíd sure like to hear their reasoning for cautioning against sight pushers. The tools I build work better on Novak sights than some of the itty bitty ones. Matter of fact, Iíve never had a problem adjusting or R&R a Novak sight.
Iím betting itís because most tools hit the Novak sight too high and far back above the dovetail and have enough leverage to twist and/or damage the dovetail. Especially when they use a ďcheater bar,Ē which MGW cautions against. I have a Mk III pusher and know it can be set low/center of the dovetail on the Novak and cuts that risk out.
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Old 02-25-2020, 01:54 PM
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That would be exactly correct. Pushing off center on a sight doesn’t make real good sense.
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Old 02-25-2020, 03:38 PM
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Dave Dawson knows A LOT about sights:

https://youtu.be/do8sHBDfIGk

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