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Old 12-15-2019, 01:44 PM
Hank in Arkansa Hank in Arkansa is offline
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S&W M&P Shield .380EZ

I just bought one of these for my wife. She never developed love of her Glock42, so we went to a rental place and tried some alternatives. The S&W M&P Shield .380EZ is the one she fell in love with, so we worked out a trade for a brand new one. It is a perfect gun for her: easy to operate the slide, load mags, and as easy as the Glock in terms of "just point and pull trigger" to make it fire. Sights are great too. We opted for the one without the thumb safety, satisfied with the grip safety. It's bigger than the Glock, but she likes the size.

I'm posting my thoughts in the 1911 forum only because "cocked & locked" fans (including me) might not realize that the S&W EZ is carried cocked and locked. It is NOT striker fired, but rather has an internal hammer that is fully cocked when a round is chambered. The grip safety has the same role as on a 1911. The manual thumb safety is optional. The gun store guy told me that the model without the thumb safety (mine) is hands down the most popular. The design allows for an exceptional trigger. Very impressive design by S&W.
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Old 12-15-2019, 03:47 PM
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If only they'd offer a version without the grip safety I'd actually be interested in one as a training tool. I have a S&W MP22 Compact, which is a very close sibling to the 380EZ, and always that that it'd be the ideal size in a .380ACP.
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Old 12-15-2019, 07:22 PM
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I actually like the idea of the grip safety and as much as I like my plain old regular Shield, it seems like the redesign should have added some capacity to compete with P365 and Hellcat. Just my opinion.
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Old 12-15-2019, 08:26 PM
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JMB thought the grip safety was enough too.

I'm not a fan of the .380Auto cartridge, but if you're happy, then I'm happy for you.

S&W just announced their 9mm version of this same gun. I don't know when it will be available to the public, but I'm sure they'll have it at SHOT.
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:06 PM
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My wife can shoot a full size 1911 (9 or 45), but finds .380 much more pleasant. 9mm in a light gun wouldn't cut it. Slide racking would be harder, same for recoil. As for capacity, a single stack fits her hand perfectly. She recently requalified her CCW, and shot her EZ as well as I shot my Nighthawk. Guns must suit the individual shooter, not some expert.
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Old 12-15-2019, 10:26 PM
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My wife can shoot a full size 1911 (9 or 45), but finds .380 much more pleasant. 9mm in a light gun wouldn't cut it. Slide racking would be harder, same for recoil. As for capacity, a single stack fits her hand perfectly. She recently requalified her CCW, and shot her EZ as well as I shot my Nighthawk. Guns must suit the individual shooter, not some expert.
I agree. There are already plenty of other options out there for hard-core gun carriers who demand the smallest, lightest, and most powerful auto. The .380 EZ fills the need for a gun that people with limited strength or mobility can handle. It's a helluva lot better than simply recommending a .22 for such individuals.
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Old 12-15-2019, 10:39 PM
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Amen, brother. Not every shooter is a young super fit Seal.
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Old 12-15-2019, 11:01 PM
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By the way, I didn't mean this thread to open a debate on EDC choices, but rather info on a new take on Browning's cocked and locked concept.
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:36 AM
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And don't forget that they have just release the S&W Shield 9mm EZ.
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:41 AM
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Can't be locked without a thumb safety.

That is what makes the "lock"

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Old 12-16-2019, 07:18 PM
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I am dumb...I thought we were TALKING about the 9mm EZ.
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Old 12-16-2019, 08:33 PM
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Link to a 9mm EZ video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtPGkFzPsXg

I find the comments very comical, as guys are essentially saying "what's the point?". The point is, if you're a 105lb. woman or a 76 year-old senior citizen with arthritis your choices up until now were limited to a .22 pistol or a .38 revolver with a light trigger. The EZ series give people with limited physical strength or dexterity (due to age, injury, or health issues) a semi-automatic pistol in a decent caliber that they can actually manipulate and shoot. Those of you with tactical beards, hairy chests and tree-trunk arms can just keep plugging away with your Glock 20s.
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Old 12-19-2019, 02:06 PM
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I was never a fan of the .380 and now with the 9mm out I see no reason for the .380 especially since the size seems almost the same and if you factor in the price and choice of ammo 9mm wins hands down.
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Old 12-19-2019, 03:12 PM
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Not hands down. ALMOST the same size/weight doesn't cut it for some folks. Plus there's recoil issues for some folks too.

There's a place for these & similar guns. That's why they exist.
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Old 12-19-2019, 04:40 PM
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Not hands down. ALMOST the same size/weight doesn't cut it for some folks. Plus there's recoil issues for some folks too.

There's a place for these & similar guns. That's why they exist.
Exactly right.

The 380 EZ was designed to be easy to load, easy to manipulate and easy to shoot. It exceeded in all categories and is a very good seller in our shop. They already make a 9mm shield, im a little perplexed that the EZ is going to be made in 9mm. Maybe they will call it the "Almost EZ".
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:12 AM
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I was only mildly interested in the .380 EZ, until I took my 21 year old daughter to the range and rented one for her. Then it became obvious the sheer genius of the thing. She loved it, and her little weak hands could easily manipulate it. All my other guns, even ones I would have thought were more female friendly, were more difficult for her to use and she didn't like them either.

I would still get a .380 for her over the 9mm, she didn't even care for the pop of the 9's I let her shoot.
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:21 AM
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My wife has one of the 380EZís and loves it. She has rather severe arthritis in her hands and wrists. This gun was exactly what she needed. While she or I havenít put more than a few hundred rounds thru it, it has never malfunctioned.
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:49 PM
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Can't be locked without a thumb safety.

That is what makes the "lock"

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Old 12-21-2019, 11:51 PM
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I don't know how many threads I've seen on the S&W board that start with "I bought 9mm Shield for my wife and she can't rack the slide." Or "I can't load the magazine." This gun supposedly addresses both of those, as well as the frequent complaints about the tiny, low profile safety. Personally I like the original safety. Just zip your thumb down tight to the side and you can't miss it. The original Shield is a great gun, but it's really not for the first time gun owner. This one is made for them, as well as women, folks with arthritis, and old men like me. I think they'll sell a ton. The range package would be good for a first time buyer, with a nice bag, eyes and ears, etc, all for about $300.
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Old 12-22-2019, 12:09 PM
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For all the other things Smith & Wesson has done wrong over the years, at least it's good to see they've always thought of everyone and not simply catered to a singular group like collectors (Colt), hunters (Weatherby) or the Tacticool crowd (HK, etc). I own four Smiths currently... an M&P .22 Compact, an M&P 2.0 9mm Compact, a 9mm SD9VE and a legacy 9mm 915 third-gen. I also have a Schofield replica, but it's a Uberti so it doesn't count. Of those, the one that impresses me the most is the SD9VE. It was designed as a cheap entry-level handgun for new or budget-conscious owners, but other than a heavy trigger there is nothing to complain about... it's every bit as reliable and easy to use as a Glock, yet it sells for less than half of what a G19 goes for these days.

I only wish that Smith & Wesson would get rid of the Hillary Hole in their revolvers, which is what's stopping me from picking up a new 686 or a legacy Model 29.
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Old 12-22-2019, 03:26 PM
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They are a fun little gun. I bought one to entice my wife to go shooting with me at the range, but she would rather shop for shoes and handbags. Sadly I am the only one to have shot it. Honestly, it is a fun gun for the money. While I am not a fan of the .380 except for pocket carry under special conditions, it was a good call for S&W. I too would like to see the grip safety go, it just does not fit my hand like the 1911 safety does.
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Old 12-22-2019, 04:37 PM
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The safety is easy to ignore.
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:57 PM
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I like a grip safety in place of the Glock trigger blade. On the other hand, while this M&P may be safe once in a holster, inserting it into the holster probably has the user depress the grip safety. As such, should clothing foul the trigger, it may still have tendency to go bang...

Stepping back, a locked breech .380 should be a soft shooter with an easy slide to rack.
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