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Old 12-06-2015, 09:12 PM
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Pt 1911 plunger tube went awol for a minute...

Some one enlighten Me how/what holds this piece and internals to the frame also is it something I can order via Tauri or Famazon and do it myself. What would cause it to Rocket the way it did, lucky I saw it...And is this more common than not lol. I just dont want to send it to Big Moma.
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Old 12-06-2015, 09:36 PM
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It is supposed to be peened on. But that one looks like it had been glued, or maybe soldered.

It definitely needs a trip back to South America.
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Old 12-06-2015, 09:36 PM
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Not a really big deal. But it would be best to use the correct tool.

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...-prod9489.aspx

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Old 12-06-2015, 09:48 PM
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Im not sure that plunger tube is meant to be stakeable, the holes in the frame and the plunger tube nipples look to be rather large, but it just may be my perception.
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Old 12-06-2015, 09:49 PM
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I just staked (2) plunger tubes using this tool. Costs a little more but it comes with the plunger tube support.


http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...prod79068.aspx
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Old 12-06-2015, 09:53 PM
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The plunger tube is held in place by swaging the two legs that fit in the frame holes. The opening of the holes in the magazine well should be chamfered to provide space into which the swaged leg material can flow. A properly installed plunger tube will not come loose as yours did.

By the way, as I look at the thumb safety it appears the edge which bears against the plunger is rounded in such a way as to apply lateral pressure thus pushing the plunger tube away from the frame.

You may want to confirm this and if it is true you may want to replace the thumb safety with one that will only apply force straight forward on the plunger.
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Old 12-06-2015, 10:04 PM
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I used one of these to chamfer the holes inside the magazine well. I used a pin vise to turn it.

http://lasco-diamond-products-inc.am...B002LZNSTW.htm
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Old 12-06-2015, 10:45 PM
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All the way to South America **** what happen to FloRida. Hmmmm buy A tool I may never use again or just ship to Taurus.......yup off to Taurus. What under the sun other than Friday afternoon sloppy work would cause this Crap ? Oh well happens to all of em I guess Ive sent Ruger ,Taurus, Glock etc all back to HQ for repair. I guess they all have the potential to **** on you lol.
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:01 AM
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Old 12-07-2015, 10:01 AM
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Rather than send it to Taurus, if I was not going to fix it myself, I would take it down to a local smith. It is a simple operation and would not cost much. I would rather pay a few bucks and have it back in an hour, than ship it and have it gone for a month. Even if it was free.

I like my Taurus PT1911, but not sure if I would trust their customer service department.
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Old 12-07-2015, 10:44 AM
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Rather than send it to Taurus, if I was not going to fix it myself, I would take it down to a local smith. It is a simple operation and would not cost much. I would rather pay a few bucks and have it back in an hour, than ship it and have it gone for a month. Even if it was free.

I like my Taurus PT1911, but not sure if I would trust their customer service department.
Agreed, but it's too late. It's already on its way. By the way, good to see ya Arisley, where have Ya been lately?
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Old 12-07-2015, 11:44 AM
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If you have a smith that can turnaround something in an hour, you are extremely fortunate. Last time I called about having a safety fitted, I was told that there were about a hundred guns ahead of me. (This was the middle of the summer.) If someone gets that far behind, how does he ever catch up?
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Old 12-07-2015, 01:51 PM
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Agreed, but it's too late. It's already on its way. By the way, good to see ya Arisley, where have Ya been lately?
Wait a minute. Who said its too late, its at the house....hahaha
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Old 12-07-2015, 02:11 PM
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Loose plunger tubes on a 1911 frame are very common. All the name brands are guilty except maybe Wilson and Baer. Trying to re attach the old one rarely works. You need a new tube and the tool to stake it. It came off because the person who installed it had no idea how it works.

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Old 12-09-2015, 09:12 AM
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Agreed, but it's too late. It's already on its way. By the way, good to see ya Arisley, where have Ya been lately?
Been lurking, looking and not posting much.

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If you have a smith that can turnaround something in an hour, you are extremely fortunate. Last time I called about having a safety fitted, I was told that there were about a hundred guns ahead of me. (This was the middle of the summer.) If someone gets that far behind, how does he ever catch up?
There is one at a range I frequent, he will do quick little things like that while you are waiting.

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Wait a minute. Who said its too late, its at the house....hahaha
Good deal.

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Loose plunger tubes on a 1911 frame are very common. All the name brands are guilty except maybe Wilson and Baer. Trying to re attach the old one rarely works. You need a new tube and the tool to stake it. It came off because the person who installed it had no idea how it works.
One of the reasons a staking tool is on my list of must have tools.
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:53 AM
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a plunger staking tool is a must have for your M1911 tool kit, especially if you own several M1911's, I already had to use mine two times, one that actually popped off while at the range and another that was loose and just needed a restaking.

I also recommend replacing with a new plunger tube if the original tube come off, because the metal is so thin on the legs, using a new tube will have a tighter fit than using a worn one.

I heard some gunsmiths charge around $50 or more to restake a plunger tube? Thats why I recommend buying the plunger staking tool, it pays for itself and saves money by doing it yourself, a very simply job once you do it a couple times, you will see how easy it is to fix yourself.

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Old 12-09-2015, 10:02 AM
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Buy the tool. Use it. Sell it. Someone here needs it.
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Old 12-10-2015, 04:31 PM
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Ok. Now its in midflight to FloRida, I hope and not S.America. youd think by now Taurus would at least have considerd making / asembling their 1911s in the USA. If Im correct they already make their TCP and Judge line here in the States. Wonder if the qaulity would change and how. From videos and promo pictures their Brazilian production plants are state of the art extra clean.
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Old 12-23-2015, 08:00 PM
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16-1911s: Sure wish you would have purchased the tool. My Colt XSE has a loose tube.

Im tempted to do the work myself. Should I purchase a new tube as someone mentioned?

It seems the safety is forcing the plunger (inside the tube) away from the frame. Whats the "cure"?
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Old 12-23-2015, 08:05 PM
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If the tube is loose just re-stake it. The plunger tube came loose on my Wiley Clapp govt. I re-staked it and it is still tight 2,500 rounds later.
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Old 12-23-2015, 08:17 PM
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Plunger tubes are relatively inexpensive. I recommend a new one. Make sure you chamfer the holes inside the frame.

Unfortunately, thumb safeties are not as inexpensive but if you want to make things right, you should probably replace it. John Harrison makes some nice thumb safeties and mentions specifically in their description that the side plate is intentionally wider to insure the plunger is not forced outward.

Be advised, the thumb safety will have to be fit.
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