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Old 01-25-2012, 01:43 PM
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ATI FX 45 Thunderbolt

Hi everyone I'm new to this forum and new to 1911's. From research though, I've stumbled across the ATI FX 45 Thunderbolt. I know it's not a 1,000.00 + dollar 1911 which I would like, but can't afford. So I'm wanting t know if anyone has seen or shot one of these. It's seems like your getting a lot of options with this pistol at a decent price, front and rear slide serrations/mag well/extended slide release/20-25 Lpi front strap checkering/Beavertail Safety and rail for around 750.00 U.S. I've noticed that you don't get all this on american made weapons unless your in the 1,000.00 and up range. I want to use it for Personal Defense 1st and foremost but entry level IDPA as well. I also don't mind putting a little money into it as well, new trigger/Slide Stop/hammer and sear/Recoil Spring and any other suggestions that others might have. This would be my first 1911 and I'm not really spun up on 1911's so any advice would be welcome.

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Allen

The picture listed below is from the following review. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_49/99438_.html


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Old 01-25-2012, 02:19 PM
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You could go American made for about the same price if you get a Detonics.
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:22 PM
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Yeah, seeing as how a combat master is a rather small 1911 and he's talking about a full sized, railed 1911, with adjustable sights...http://www.americantactical.us/941/detail.html built.

Also, Tactical MP, god will not smite you for buying a non-American made firearm. As for providing American jobs? Well, let me see, someone has to import the damn things.

Might I also suggest the RIA Railed Tactical http://centerfiresystems.com/AC-RI1911-2011-NS.aspx with night sights and currently in stock. You can get holsters for it from Mtac and a few other manufacturers. No experience with ATI but they are Shooters Arms Imports and I liked their Elite model an awful lot.
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Old 01-25-2012, 04:46 PM
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Yeah, seeing as how a combat master is a rather small 1911 and he's talking about a full sized, railed 1911, with adjustable sights...http://www.americantactical.us/941/detail.html built.

Also, Tactical MP, god will not smite you for buying a non-American made firearm. As for providing American jobs? Well, let me see, someone has to import the damn things.

Might I also suggest the RIA Railed Tactical http://centerfiresystems.com/AC-RI1911-2011-NS.aspx with night sights and currently in stock. You can get holsters for it from Mtac and a few other manufacturers. No experience with ATI but they are Shooters Arms Imports and I liked their Elite model an awful lot.
Thank you for your reply. I like the RIA Tactical 1911 great price point as well I have heard nothing but good things from RIA owner for the money they might be the best 1911 on the market. There are a few things that I really like on the ATI that are not on the RIA though. Front Strap Checkering/Front and Rear slide serrations/extended slide release and the magwell. I added that pic and I think it's a great looking weapon for the money, I do know looks can be deceiving though.

I'm just concerned if it will last and if I will have to put over 400 dollars into or not to get it to do what I'm asking of it. Any thoughts on that comment? I know you said that you didn't have any experience with ATI but as someone that knows more about 1911's than I do, I didn't know if maybe you had a thought on that subject.
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Old 01-25-2012, 04:49 PM
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Yeah, seeing as how a combat master is a rather small 1911 and he's talking about a full sized, railed 1911, with adjustable sights...http://www.americantactical.us/941/detail.html built.

Also, Tactical MP, god will not smite you for buying a non-American made firearm. As for providing American jobs? Well, let me see, someone has to import the damn things.

Might I also suggest the RIA Railed Tactical http://centerfiresystems.com/AC-RI1911-2011-NS.aspx with night sights and currently in stock. You can get holsters for it from Mtac and a few other manufacturers. No experience with ATI but they are Shooters Arms Imports and I liked their Elite model an awful lot.
Maybe if you knew more about Detonics you would know they make full size guns as well.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:45 PM
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You could go American made for about the same price if you get a Detonics.
I'd like to know where one might find such an affordable Detonics. Most I've seen are a lot more than an ATI/RIA.
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Old 01-25-2012, 06:13 PM
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that model of ati is expensive but they look very nice
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Old 01-25-2012, 06:15 PM
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Maybe if you knew more about Detonics you would know they make full size guns as well.
I'm well aware they make larger arms as well, yet I've never seen a Scoremaster in the same ballpark as the RIA Tactical or the ATI Thunderbolt and if the OP truly wants a railed 1911 with the FS checkering he just mentioned, then where pray tell will he find a budget minded Detonics to fit the bill?

As for buy American? Does this extend to used handguns? I mean, who are you supporting other than an LGS or some fellow on gunbroker making a profit?

XinTX, I say go for it. Buy it and shoot it before you change a damn thing is the old adage (I disagree, I always put pachs on guns with smooth front straps and Wolf springs). As for what you want out of it? No idea, I've never shot that particular model, I have shot the SAM Elite and the Thunderbolt is a SAM product, so I'd give it a shot...actually I find I like most of the 1911s from the Philippines, must be due to poor breeding and little to no taste.
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Old 01-25-2012, 06:57 PM
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Nope not making a profit on this but call Detonics. Right now you can get a full size with rail for $850.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:02 PM
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Nope not making a profit on this but call Detonics. Right now you can get a full size with rail for $850.
No kidding? Well, I've seen the railed Nemesis HT but that's going for 2249 MSRP and no other FS railed options for 850 on their page? Am I missing it? Link?
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:09 PM
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No link they are still working on the website. Give them a call. Number is on the website. Tell them Robert sent you.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:11 PM
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No link they are still working on the website. Give them a call. Number is on the website. Tell them Robert sent you.
Will do, heck if they offer a straight up commander sized option in that range I'd be a happy boy.
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Old 01-26-2012, 08:18 AM
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Any pictures of the Full size Rail Weapon from Detonics?
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:10 AM
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I'll see if I can't get one for you
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:24 AM
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...actually I find I like most of the 1911s from the Philippines, must be due to poor breeding and little to no taste.
I have the same issue with the added problem of liking Chinese Norincos...
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I have the same issue with the added problem of liking Chinese Norincos...
Heh, more power to you. I admit it may come from someone trying to tell me my RIA GI that I bought over five years ago was absolute junk (on this forum) and that it was nothing more than a cheap plinker. Nearly ten thousand rounds later and now in the hands of a new owner it's had one part replaced and that's the slide stop. The new owner has small hands and wanted an extended one. Well, it's had the standard replacement of springs and some Hogues added, but really does that count? I'm intrigued by cheap and expensive 1911s, so I get the best of both worlds.

Any news on pics of that railed Detonics?
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:40 AM
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Wow!

Actually I just found this weapon online for 686.83. I'm not sure how I can say no at that price for what I'm getting, even if it needs 200 dollars worth of work, it's a great buy for what you get don't you think? Here is the link and more pic's.

http://http://www.tombstonetactical....5in-8rd-black/

http://http://www.gunbroker.com/Auct...=269482784#PIC

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Old 01-29-2012, 09:55 AM
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I just put it in layaway!!!!

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Old 01-29-2012, 10:11 AM
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I just put it in layaway!!!!

John one of the employee's there checked their dealers and they had a few in stock. So he picked one up for store stock. I called yesterday and it came in that day actually, so I hopped in the Jeep and ran down to put my hands on one.

There were many there to choose from and even a few Kimbers in close to the same price range. Actually the only complaint I have is it was way to easy to engage and disengaged the safety, this is a minor issue though and can be fixed really easy. The slide to frame fit was great and extremely smooth. I've looked at others like Springfield and Kimber but for the money I can not justify the difference in price. If your looking for a full size 1911 with all the bells and whistles at a great price point look no further than this one!!!! I'm really being as serious as I can, given I have not shot it but what you get with this weapon for the money is outstanding, when I racked the slide I was "SHOCKED" at how good it felt, I was going in with I guess really low expectiations, and was blown away with the quality of this weapon. If you want a full sized 1911 with a rail, and 700-800 U.S. Dollars, for the money, you can't beat it just from what I know about it right now. I know this is a raving review given I have not shot the weapon but, I'm blown away at how good this pistol is built and what you get for the money.

When I shoot it I will give a range update.

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Old 01-30-2012, 02:38 AM
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Glad to hear it, let us know how it shoots.
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Old 01-30-2012, 09:31 AM
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Glad to hear it, let us know how it shoots.
I sure will, I'm figuring I will run about 200-300 rounds through it at the range the first time I go and then let everyone on here know how it preforms.
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Holly crap i was just looking at this last week on cheaperthandirt.com and received an email today saying they have 8 in stock. $676+ shipping+ whatever the FFL dealer will charge me. OR

I can just go to the AAFES onpost and buy a SIG SAUER NITRON for $890 no tax hmmm I might just get the SIG
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:04 PM
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Holly crap i was just looking at this last week on cheaperthandirt.com and received an email today saying they have 8 in stock. $676+ shipping+ whatever the FFL dealer will charge me. OR

I can just go to the AAFES onpost and buy a SIG SAUER NITRON for $890 no tax hmmm I might just get the SIG
You can't go wrong wig Sig but I think this is a can't miss 1911 for the money. I am very pleased with my purchase. I'm thinking with a Wilson Combat trigger job, Wilson Combat Match grade barrel plus an action job and it will be as good as any 1500 dollar 1911 on the market besides the Springfield Armory TRP.

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You can't go wrong wig Sig but I think this is a can't miss 1911 for the money. I am very pleased with my purchase. I'm thinking with a Wilson Combat trigger job, Wilson Combat Match grade barrel plus an action job and it will be as good as any 1500 dollar 1911 on the market besides the Springfield Armory TRP.
True, I'm not an expert on modifying them so I may just do the SIG like you said, but my initial impression is you can't beat this ATI for the money, even if you have to pump $300 into it on upgrades. We shall see, since the SIG comes with fixed rear sights unless I get the Nitron Target which is a few bucks more like $920, still a good deal IMO. Hell I paid $1K for my HK 45C and the trigger ain't no 1911
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True, I'm not an expert on modifying them so I may just do the SIG like you said, but my initial impression is you can't beat this ATI for the money, even if you have to pump $300 into it on upgrades. We shall see, since the SIG comes with fixed rear sights unless I get the Nitron Target which is a few bucks more like $920, still a good deal IMO. Hell I paid $1K for my HK 45C and the trigger ain't no 1911
I'm sorry I must not have made myself clear. It needs these upgrade to get the pistol where I want it, where I want it is a 1.5 inch hole with 9 rounds at 25 yards from a bench. I think 2 Wilson Combat 47D mags and a 16 pound recoil spring and it would be done if your not looking for the kind of accuracy I am. I will be using this pistol for IDPA.
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