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Old 03-08-2020, 08:54 AM
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I may very well end up splitting up my bounty between my friends on this forum! When it comes to that time, I will send it all out in unmarked boxes via the USPS!
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Old 03-08-2020, 05:47 PM
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I agree, buy what you can afford when it is available. If the Dims even appear to be going up in the polls, that will kick off a panic buy. It's not the right thing to do, but the last time I did the right thing and found everything to be out of stock when I needed it. Also, durin a panic buy, prices will go up on everything and it's not physics. What goes up never comes down.
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Old 03-08-2020, 06:25 PM
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It's not the right thing to do, but the last time I did the right thing and found everything to be out of stock
I disagree... buying now will keep production up and the supply chain full. It will still suck when the panic ensues but at least they will enter it with full production capacity and our individual stocks at some form of minimum threshold.

Waiting until then only puts you and everyone else at a disadvantage by having to fight each other (and pay gouging prices) for what is on the shelves, with no reserves.
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Old 03-09-2020, 06:15 AM
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I have zero sympathy for anyone at this stage that gets caught with their pants down. The O’bozo days and the constant threat of new illegal laws have circulated in the media for over a decade. If you have been living in a cave, you deserve no powder! Use um stick.......
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Old 03-09-2020, 11:41 AM
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I may very well end up splitting up my bounty between my friends on this forum! When it comes to that time, I will send it all out in unmarked boxes via the USPS!



Hey, buddy!
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Old 03-09-2020, 04:36 PM
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Sorry for the cave thing too!!!
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Old 03-09-2020, 07:34 PM
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Sorry for the cave thing too!!!

S'ok. It's a nice cave.
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Old 03-14-2020, 08:54 PM
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This on RMR Bullets site today:

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Okay, apparently people are buying to prepare for the end of the world. We now have more orders than we can fill right away. So, if you need your order to ship right away please send an email to [email protected] and we will rush it out if we can. Obviously, backorders won't be able to go out until we have the products in stock. I've put all of the in-house bullets on backorder because we are waiting for a shipment of copper strip and I want everyone to know to expect some shipping delays. And no, we don't have any toilet paper in stock. Sorry! Dismiss
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Old 03-15-2020, 06:01 AM
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Gun Powder mfg's in North America.....

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For instance......Hodgdon.....they don't manufacture any powder. What they do is source raw powder from Australian powder manufacturers and blend it to come up with H1000 or any one of their other trade names.
I believe there are three gunpowder mfg. plants in North America. The largest production of ball powders is from St. Mark's Powder, a company based in Crawfordsville, Florida. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Marks_Powder

Hodgdon and Winchester purchase gun powder from St. Mark's Powder, which I assume is much less expensive then sourcing gun powder from Australia......
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Old 03-15-2020, 10:31 AM
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Here we go again! Been there, got the T-shirt back in 2006.
Steady purchasing all year will keep you flush and prepared.
A contentious election on the horizon, high use seasonal buying and now COVID-19 production delays will cause shortages to be felt for months from now.

Now if we can only score some TP! Ridiculous.
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Old 03-16-2020, 03:18 AM
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My reloading thing started simply because I hated wasting brass from the 45-70, 338 Lapua, 338 win mag, 300 win mag 6.5 Creedmore, 500 smith, the beowulf and the 45 Colt. It was simply a recycle thing. I’ve been in front of the ammo supply for years. I’m not short of ammo just too cheap to toss big brass. The game now is to manage/balance brass, primers, bullets and powder between 8 calibers. The MTM/Case Guard family is gonna retire a little richer just because I’m cheap.
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Old 03-16-2020, 06:19 AM
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My reloading thing started simply because I hated wasting brass from the 45-70, 338 Lapua, 338 win mag, 300 win mag 6.5 Creedmore, 500 smith, the beowulf and the 45 Colt. It was simply a recycle thing. I’ve been in front of the ammo supply for years. I’m not short of ammo just too cheap to toss big brass. The game now is to manage/balance brass, primers, bullets and powder between 8 calibers. The MTM/Case Guard family is gonna retire a little richer just because I’m cheap.
You’re not cheap, you’re smart. All of those calibers will be far more accurate than generic junk off the shelves that is very expensive.
I strolled by the big stuff at Cabelas the other day and noticed that 300 Win Mag was nearly $40 for a box of 20 (ELD). You can load that for $10, the massive powder being the most expensive.
Too many people only look at the small savings when they compare 9mm and poo poo the loading idea. They completely dismiss the idea of what premium exotics cost, let alone stuff like 44 mag, 357 and the Colt you mentioned earlier.
I agree if you just shoot a 9mm a couple times a year, reloading is probably not for you.
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Old 03-16-2020, 06:58 AM
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Reloading those rifle rounds is a smart move. Better, more accurate ammo for less!


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I lucked out.
My buddy kicked the bucket and I ended up with a butt load of his reloading stuff.
Should I be happy or sad????
Yes?
Sorry about your buddy, OF. He would want you to enjoy his reloading supplies.
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Old 03-17-2020, 06:29 AM
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Well here we go........
Shelves are emptying at our local Academy and Cabelas/Bass Pro.
I posted this elsewhere as well, but it seems folks are a bit uneasy about the prospect of those people that are unprepared becoming desperate. Perhaps a few anti-gunners will see the light and not think that golf club in the corner as being adequate for self defense.
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Old 03-17-2020, 09:22 AM
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I sit here shaking my head. Again people are left without.

It’s a learning curve I suppose, remember when your mom told you not to do that because you were going to get hurt? Had to learn the hard way didn’t you.

Buy when there is an abundance and prices are low, not when things are scarce and prices are high.

Just move the time and the same thing repeats itself, at least since 1994.

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Old 03-17-2020, 09:47 AM
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I just cracked open a keg of powder bought in June of 2019. I just finished up the keg from 2018. SPP are from 10-2019. I have LRP, SRP, and LPP from years many years ago.

Sadly reloaders must look out months, if not years ahead. I pretty much buy components when I see a sale whether I need it or not in the foreseeable future.

I still will buy 9mm and even .223 on sale if it just pennies more per round than my reloads. I had 5 cases of Blazer brass 9mm 147 on order, but the price jumped from 170 to 200 overnight.

I also keep cheap non match ammo around for guest and family shooting.

Sadly in our area we have witnessed shortages and price jumps on commercial ammo in just the past few days.
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Old 03-17-2020, 12:20 PM
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I sit here shaking my head. Again people are left without.

It’s a learning curve I suppose, remember when your mom told you not to do that because you were going to get hurt? Had to learn the hard way didn’t you.

Buy when there is an abundance and prices are low, not when things are scarce and prices are high.

Just move the time and the same thing repeats itself, at least since 1994.
With each new generation of shooters, it take another election/storm/epidemic/etc. for them to learn the same lesson. No one really understands the full impact until they lived through one without ammo.
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Old 03-17-2020, 12:51 PM
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Last night was a perfect example of why you shouldn't wait... with biden surging, people are already talking about him being a "moderate" and will give Trump a real race... and he's gained enough ground that they can easily screw bernie out of the nomination.

I'm thinking by the dem convention, you'll start seeing shelves getting thin as people start to worry and buy.

I also got caught short with obama and have been slowly preparing for whoever follows Trump, whether now or in 2024.
Evidently, you aren't aware of the "Never Biden" Democrats that have been gaining ground over the last couple weeks. I'm seeing what amounts to a race between those people and the campaign handlers keeping him off the stage and out of the spotlight as much as possible due to his more and more apparent senility and dimentia. Nature may take care of Biden for us, and nobody wants Bernie and his socialist BS.
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Old 03-17-2020, 01:46 PM
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The last big shortages I got so mad I quit shooting for a couple years. You couldn't find bullets, then it was primers and then it was powder. Actually I'm just now getting started back up. I'm not going thru this crap again, I'll go ride my motorcycle, reloading isn't the only thing I enjoy !
Cast your own. It expands your hobby into a new area and is a lot of fun to boot. When the .22LR ammo couldn't be had a few years ago and bullets were scarce Mike Venturino wrote a very interesting article in Handloader Magazine.
Make sure you have powder and primers and you will never be held hostage again. Also Powders such as 5744 which is very popular for rifle cartridge is unlikely to have a run made on them like say, Varget
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Old 03-17-2020, 04:23 PM
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How much is a sufficient supply? I have 3k of factory, a couple k of primers, a couple lbs of powder and 2500 projectiles in my stock. This is .45 ACP only.
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Old 03-17-2020, 04:42 PM
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How much is a sufficient supply? I have 3k of factory, a couple k of primers, a couple lbs of powder and 2500 projectiles in my stock. This is .45 ACP only.
That depends on how much you want to keep shooting on a regular basis.
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Old 03-17-2020, 06:09 PM
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How much is a sufficient supply? I have 3k of factory, a couple k of primers, a couple lbs of powder and 2500 projectiles in my stock. This is .45 ACP only.
That could be as little as 5-6 weeks of shooting for some here and as much as 10 years for others... the minimum balance is up to each to determine.
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Old 03-17-2020, 10:06 PM
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Just picked up a couple pounds of titegroup and a couple cases of primers. I see supply running low from here on. Not sure what's going on at the distributor level...
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Old 03-18-2020, 02:25 AM
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We (2 grown boys and I) drifted away from normal pistol shooting a year or so ago when I caught a case of Big Bang hand cannon-itus. That spread to the boys, which brought us to a decent collection of the larger long guns. That created the need for studying ballistics at the more serious level which put us in the weeds of internal and external scientific research on this math, bang and bullet bandwagon. It put a smile on my face as I was able to see the light bulb come on as they realized the complexity of bullets to longer distance bullseyes. While all this is going on I find myself recovering from rotator cuff surgery and happy knowing we rat holed enough 22 ammo to carry me through recovery while I accumulate powder, primers and bullets to feed the big guns. The timing of the Covid 19 semi-shutdown of the world will certainly be a hardship on folks but I was grounded from driving, shooting or most other activities anyway. We figure the economics of toilet paper panic/ignorance might play into our powder purchase power! Gotta go wash my hands, STORM2 out.

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Old 03-18-2020, 06:17 AM
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How much is a sufficient supply? I have 3k of factory, a couple k of primers, a couple lbs of powder and 2500 projectiles in my stock. This is .45 ACP only.
I would be freaking out! I would have to take days off work, drive all over the place, search a hundred online stores and overpay for all of it!!
That’s plenty for “hunker down” ammo, but don’t go out and shoot it all up until this crap gets past us. If you think toilet paper was hard to find..........
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