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Old 02-12-2020, 06:27 PM
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Barrel conundrum

My main ARs barrel is getting old with around 10k rounds and I am starting to notice flyers at 200, it's an LWRC so I am having a hell of a time for a few reasons......first being they consider any gun shooting 3.0 MOA or better to be in spec and they do not sell barrels. I am kinda hoping someone here has a lead on getting barrels instead of having to buy entire uppers, anyone have any info?
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:21 PM
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What model?
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:33 PM
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IC SPR 16 inch
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:40 PM
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You should have no problem picking a barrel for it. Many companies make them. I have no idea if LWRC does, or just installs barrels other made.

Did you ask of they would rebarrel your upper for a fee?
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You should have no problem picking a barrel for it. Many companies make them. I have no idea if LWRC does, or just installs barrels other made.

Did you ask of they would rebarrel your upper for a fee?
No other barrels will work in this gun, it literally has to be theirs and they used to offer that service for $1200 but it's not showing anymore.
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Old 02-13-2020, 08:23 AM
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No other barrels will work in this gun, it literally has to be theirs and they used to offer that service for $1200 but it's not showing anymore.
Is that just because of some proprietary barrel extension or some other BS?

If thats the case, take the scope off and put another gun underneath it.
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Old 02-13-2020, 08:56 AM
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No other barrels will work in this gun, it literally has to be theirs and they used to offer that service for $1200 but it's not showing anymore.
Is that just because of some proprietary barrel extension or some other BS?

If thats the case, take the scope off and put another gun underneath it.
Reason is the piston system, it's the entire reason I have the gun and its stable mates at all. I vastly prefer it to a DI system for many reasons mostly recoil impulse and reliability. None of my other guns do as well unless I use a SCAR but I dislike how fat the front is on the 5.56 version.

If I want I can technically just put whatever barrel in it and swap to a DI carrier but then what's the point?
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Old 02-13-2020, 09:08 AM
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honestly if they wont sell you a barrel, i would dump all the guns and buy something i can replace parts on.

have you tried to call them?

if they keep saying no, start a social media campaign, people need to know
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Old 02-13-2020, 09:26 AM
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honestly if they wont sell you a barrel, i would dump all the guns and buy something i can replace parts on.

have you tried to call them?

if they keep saying no, start a social media campaign, people need to know
Actually did just call them, I was surprised by the response I got in a way. I told them the state of the gun and it's use and that I wanted a new barrel with the A5 block and they agreed to do it for $595 and will allow me to keep my old barrel. Seems they will not sell a new barrel however they will allow you to buy three rebarrel services and keep all the barrels......also told me point blank that if the guns are used suppressed or run hard/FA they only last 3k-5k before starting to show group spread at 300 so there's that info for anyone who cares.

Not the easy route of just selling a barrel but it's apparently just policy to check it and make sure it's done to their spec no exceptions. Going to replace the cam pin and bolt too and small parts, least I can just buy those myself without having to play the ship back and forth game.
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Old 02-13-2020, 09:33 AM
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Actually did just call them, I was surprised by the response I got in a way. I told them the state of the gun and it's use and that I wanted a new barrel with the A5 block and they agreed to do it for $595 and will allow me to keep my old barrel. Seems they will not sell a new barrel however they will allow you to buy three rebarrel services and keep all the barrels......also told me point blank that if the guns are used suppressed or run hard/FA they only last 3k-5k before starting to show group spread at 300 so there's that info for anyone who cares.

Not the easy route of just selling a barrel but it's apparently just policy to check it and make sure it's done to their spec no exceptions. Going to replace the cam pin and bolt too and small parts, least I can just buy those myself without having to play the ship back and forth game.
3k-5k rounds? thats stupid. i thought that chf barrels were supposed to last much longer
and yes, the chf in house.
wonder about all those full auto ones they sell?

man i hate proprietary items of any type
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Old 02-13-2020, 10:30 AM
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Actually did just call them, I was surprised by the response I got in a way. I told them the state of the gun and it's use and that I wanted a new barrel with the A5 block and they agreed to do it for $595 and will allow me to keep my old barrel. Seems they will not sell a new barrel however they will allow you to buy three rebarrel services and keep all the barrels......also told me point blank that if the guns are used suppressed or run hard/FA they only last 3k-5k before starting to show group spread at 300 so there's that info for anyone who cares.

Not the easy route of just selling a barrel but it's apparently just policy to check it and make sure it's done to their spec no exceptions. Going to replace the cam pin and bolt too and small parts, least I can just buy those myself without having to play the ship back and forth game.
3k-5k rounds? thats stupid. i thought that chf barrels were supposed to last much longer
and yes, the chf in house.
wonder about all those full auto ones they sell?

man i hate proprietary items of any type
3-5 before measurable loss with 50% suppressed or full auto use, considering many guns will die after a few mags in fine with that. Not like any other manufacturer has better barrels than that so it's moot anyway, heck mine made it to a little over 10m fine with 1/3 suppressed use and decent full auto exposure

It will probably meet the 20k they state if you never get it hot or run it hard
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Old 02-13-2020, 10:35 AM
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yeah, maybe. but 595 puts you in the custom barrel range for a kreiger/bartlein/ect
which i would much prefer over a chf barrel for accuracy
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Old 02-13-2020, 10:43 AM
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yeah, maybe. but 595 puts you in the custom barrel range for a kreiger/bartlein/ect
which i would much prefer over a chf barrel for accuracy
True but accuracy is relative and I prioritize durability for this gun and 3.5 inch or better with a 10 round group at 300 is fine. I have other ARs for accuracy, that's not this ones job and I would cry if I shot a 5 stage match or even practiced for 2 hours with a Kreiger since 400+ in that time period will ruin it lol!
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Old 02-14-2020, 03:08 PM
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I would get a nice billet upper with a Stretch 16 barrel - put that on top of the LWRC.

Curious, is your LWRC an ambi model? nice if it is.
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Old 02-14-2020, 03:23 PM
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I would get a nice billet upper with a Stretch 16 barrel - put that on top of the LWRC.

Curious, is your LWRC an ambi model? nice if it is.
Yep, all of mine are and it's a big reason I like them so much. It's one of the best systems I've used so far
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Yep, all of mine are and it's a big reason I like them so much. It's one of the best systems I've used so far
Yep, I agree. My thought is that the only reason to own the LRWC - is the Ambi lower. Nice gun but the propriety barrel scared me away. Time for you to replace the entire upper, get a nice upper and non proprietary barrel. Pick out a handgaurd. You can likely use your existing BCG? Perfect time to go that route.
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Yep, all of mine are and it's a big reason I like them so much. It's one of the best systems I've used so far
Yep, I agree. My thought is that the only reason to own the LRWC - is the Ambi lower. Nice gun but the propriety barrel scared me away. Time for you to replace the entire upper, get a nice upper and non proprietary barrel. Pick out a handgaurd. You can likely use your existing BCG? Perfect time to go that route.
I can just plop one of my M6 ICDI uppers on in that instance lol! The gun actually did a similar thing in my head for me when I first got it, in the end I decided I wanted the piston system enough to deal with the inevitable. It's the first gun I ever bought under my name right when I turned 18 do I guess I got 6 solid years out of it, that's not too bad.

This would be so much easier if they just sold the damn barrels as parts, I'm seriously considering your suggestion now of making another upper for games and fun and keeping the factory one around for classes and more serious use since the lower controls are what matter.
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Old 02-15-2020, 05:26 AM
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yeah, maybe. but 595 puts you in the custom barrel range for a kreiger/bartlein/ect
which i would much prefer over a chf barrel for accuracy
Not the best barrels for shooting suppressed or FA
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Doesn't PSA sell FN CHF barrels from time to time? If you don't like the government profile, you could send the barrel to ADCO for Reprofiling, reuse the gas block off of the old barrel, and attach it to the stripped flat top upper of your choice. You'd also have to find another free float handguard though, unless you can make the one you have fit a standard upper.

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