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Old 02-02-2020, 10:13 AM
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Commander length recoil spring plugs on 5" pistols?

I searched around and couldn't find anything. Why does DW use Commander length plugs on full-sized pistols?
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Old 02-10-2020, 12:36 AM
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Crickets from Dan Wesson, too. I tried calling them and no answer. I submitted my question in writing through their website and no response. My 5" Valor Limited came with a blackened Commander length recoil spring plug, and I'm thinking it needs to be Government length. I would even trade it for a stainless one if that's all they have left, as long as they have one with a cap long enough to mate with the "thick" barrel bushing.

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Old 02-10-2020, 01:40 AM
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More then likely because it requires them to stock less parts. IMO it makes no difference and wouldnt be something I would worry about.. I have 10s of thousands of rounds through full size DWs with the commander plugs without issue..
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Old 02-10-2020, 05:56 AM
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I agree with you, they work fine. Could also be that DW sources spring plugs from EGW and they only make two lengths: Commander and 6 slide.
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Old 02-10-2020, 08:36 AM
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I was surprised my sample Govt. sized 9mm Vigil had a Commander recoil spring plug. Figured it was just a mistake so I dug around in the parts box and put a long one in. No biggy, even though they'll run with the short plug it just seemed like it should be "right".
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Old 02-10-2020, 12:29 PM
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Fewer parts to stock and makes no difference on function. There is really no need to use a GI length plug in a Gov't length gun.

All full length guide rod plugs are commander length.
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Old 02-10-2020, 01:38 PM
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Old 02-11-2020, 07:56 AM
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I would think that you can cut a plug down by half and it would be fine.

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Old 02-11-2020, 08:12 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I just didn't know that it's intended. I've no doubt this has already been hashed out long before my DW days. No big deal, I just wanted to make sure I had the correct factory part.
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:03 PM
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Ideally, a spring should be controlled along it's full length to prevent buckling. This is typically done by either a fairly close fitting rod within the spring, or a somewhat looser tube surrounding the spring.

In a 1911, the control is split between the recoil spring guide rod and the recoil spring plug. The design does not allow control over the full length of the recoil spring, though. There is about a 0.75" section of spring unsupported between the front end of the guide rod, and the rear end of the plug. A commander length plug adds about 0.4" to this unsupported length.

As long as the spring coils are not scraping the rear of the plug, there should be no problem.

Full length guide rod manufacturers might argue with that, though.

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