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Old 07-22-2019, 05:54 PM
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Strange 9mm range pick up.

I was picking up some brass at the range today and found this.
I have never seen a shell casing like this. It has "S3 9mm Luger head stamp.
Any idea what it is?
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:02 PM
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Might be this:

https://www.shellshocktechnologies.com/
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:29 PM
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That looks like it. Not sure what the advantage would be.
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:52 PM
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I think Fed or CCI was doing some sort of steel/brass head case hybrid, but with an aluminum body, in a fairly large scale...undoubtedly 9x19 was included for sheer volume and popularity of caliber...

I know I read about those two-piece cases 2 years or so ago...

Toss in trash.
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Old 07-24-2019, 06:19 PM
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That looks like it. Not sure what the advantage would be.
I think the advantage is that you can pick it up with a magnet and it is...with a special die...reloadable. Last time I looked into this stuff it was cheaper per thousand than new brass.
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:39 AM
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Aluminum body?
Iím not loading that crap.....as suggested, toss it!
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Old 07-26-2019, 07:50 AM
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I think #2 is the right one. They require special dies to reload, that they also sell.

https://www.shellshocktechnologies.c...loading-tools/

They are not aluminum but I agree, I’d set it on the shelf as a conversation piece.

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Old 07-26-2019, 08:26 AM
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I think the advantage is that you can pick it up with a magnet and it is...with a special die...reloadable. Last time I looked into this stuff it was cheaper per thousand than new brass.
I talked to a range owner that rents full auto and that's what he uses... he can p/u & sort with magnet and said it's great "brass".
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Old 07-26-2019, 10:58 PM
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I talked to a range owner that rents full auto and that's what he uses... he can p/u & sort with magnet and said it's great "brass".
Along with all the other steel cases you don’t want.
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Old 07-27-2019, 08:04 AM
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Ha, well thatís true....
You can sort after your sort......sort of....
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Old 07-27-2019, 11:12 AM
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Yep, frogfurr got it right. It's a two piece case, stainless steel "nickel alloy" cylinder and aluminum base. I read a report on them a while back and the reloading needs special dies as "normal" dies will pull the case apart when extracting from a sizing die. Dies are expensive (the sizing die is a spring loaded assy. that pushes the case out of the die rather than pull it out). I'll stick with plain old brass...
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Old 07-29-2019, 06:27 AM
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I just took a better look at them. Looks like only 9mm is offered from Shell Shock Technologies. The dies are only $100 and 1500 of the cases are $150. I donít think their ďsellingĒ points are worth it at all. Considering the vast amount of 9mm brass that is available everywhere, there would be no reason to switch. Looks like someone had way too much time on their hands, not to mention factory resources.
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Old 07-29-2019, 07:28 AM
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Along with all the other steel cases you donít want.
IIRC it's brass only for regular customers... (which he keeps and sells, so I don;t shoot there)
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:03 PM
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conventional aluminum 'brass' reloads fine with normal dies. I have reloaded a bunch of blazer 9mm, some of it two or three times before it cracks. I used to save it to use when I had to shoot at a range that would not let you pick up your fired brass.

I have never messed with this two piece case stuff and don't think that I want to.
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Old 07-29-2019, 02:20 PM
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IIRC, the Shell Shock Technologies ammo was originally made for military applications, but I don't think the military liked them enough to buy any...
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:20 AM
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conventional aluminum 'brass' reloads fine with normal dies. I have reloaded a bunch of blazer 9mm, some of it two or three times before it cracks. I used to save it to use when I had to shoot at a range that would not let you pick up your fired brass.

I have never messed with this two piece case stuff and don't think that I want to.
Yeah, I wouldnít be doing the Aluminum thing. Itís not worth it if you have your breech face or chamber flame cut. Aluminum will split sometimes with the first firing. Just not worth it for any reason. 9mm especially is so cheap for thousands of cases that it makes no sense.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:44 AM
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I know a fellow that bragged about being so smart he had figured out how to reload the “non reloadable” aluminum cases. Sure they split on the 2nd firing but they were “free” (like all the brass cases I have picked up after matches too). Anyhow about 6 months later he started having issues and wound up having to replace the Kart barrel as it had been eroded due to all the split cases.

It was an expensive way to figure out the difference between “Can’t reload” and “Shouldn’t reload”.
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:34 AM
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I guess thatís why they say NR on the box!
At least have the sense to shoot them out of a Taurus or something.......
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