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Old 08-26-2019, 07:07 PM
The4thSurvivor The4thSurvivor is offline
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RIA 1911 for my first handgun. Need some input from actual owners.

Good afternoon everyone! I am thinking of purchasing a RIA 1911 GI for my first handgun. Let me start of by saying that I currently own a Mossberg 500 as my primary firearm, but I am looking to purchase a handgun as a secondary portable firearm. I spend a lot of time in the range shooting a variety of handguns which included Glock, Beretta, S&W and of course the 1911. All of the guns felt and fired good, but I admit I love the feel, firepower, and looks of the 1911. It just felt heavier, solid and had a recoil that indicated you are shooting something with firepower. It just felt like a true shooter. What attracted me to the RIA 1911 is that out of all four handguns, it had the lowest price point. I had my heart set on the RIA 1911, but the guys at the gun dealership were slightly discouraging me in purchasing it for my first gun. They mostly claimed that it was not as reliable as the rest and that maintenance of a 1911 is more expensive. They told me I would have to rebuild and change the parts more often as I spend a good amount of time in the range. The guys did quote my $600 out the door price and I told them I wanted to do research before I made my decision. I will leave it as this for now because I don't want to turn my thread into an essay. Thank you in advanced and I hope to learn more about this gun and meet new people who have real life experience with it.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:18 PM
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That price is way high for a Rock Island Armory GI- I just found one online for $332. I think a lot of shops discourage the old 1911 style pistols because we're a dying breed- most people prefer tacticool high capacity polymer pistols that field strip and reassemble in seconds. I don't know what parts you'll be replacing but I would think you'd have a few thousand trouble free rounds before anything broke. They also seem to have a great warranty and customer service, but I cannot speak from experience.

I have one- it's in .22 TCM and 9mm and I have about 100 rounds through it and it performed flawlessly.

FWIW- You can get the Defender Series Springfield Armory Mil Spec for around $500 in most shops until supply runs out. Those are forged frames and SA gets great reviews for customer service, too. I have one and it also did almost 100 trouble free rounds at the same range trip mentioned before.

Try a website called gun.deals and enter what you're looking for in the search window- Rock Island GI or Springfield Armory Defender (but look at the ones priced in the $450 range and you'll weed out the non-1911 style guns in the Defender series.
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Old 08-26-2019, 09:29 PM
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That is very high for a GI. Go to gunbroker.com budsgunshop.com and you can get an idea of what it should cost. Add a little if you are buying from a local shop. I have several ria pistols with thousands of rds thru them. I have never had a part break. Since they are shipped with some kind of gunk in them to prevent rust, it is best to detail strip, clean , and lube the gun. Any 1911 that I buy I check several adjustments. On almost all of my 1911s the extractor tension was either too tight or too loose. These tasks are easy to do after you have done them a couple of times, but a little scary the first time. If you know someone who can walk you thru taking the gun apart, or pay a gunsmith the first time. There are also plenty of utubes showing how to do almost anything on a 1911.
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Old 08-26-2019, 09:33 PM
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Also RIA has a $50 rebate for purchasing any one of their guns.
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Old 08-27-2019, 03:58 AM
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Years of experience with many people, the Tactical model with beaver tail grip safety, better trigger, better sights, all translates to a gun which will shoot a lot better and provide more enjoyment. Still have the 1911 look. The extra enhancements cost almost nothing, making the RIA Tactical model a stunning value. Almost all who get the bare bones GI model wish they had spent a little more. http://template.mc60sec.net/d875645b...mKec9Jja8QM%3D

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Old 08-27-2019, 06:10 AM
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Agree with Mountain Walker.

I have the Tactical FS and it is everything I want in a 1911 .45. I purchased a few extra MEC-GAR magazines which worked flawlessly. I have put 200 rounds through it and not one failure.

Maintenance is easy and not expensive at all. Regular cleaning is about it. Probably replace the springs in about 4800 more rounds.
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Old 08-27-2019, 07:28 AM
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The RIA is a good starter 1911 don't let the lower price point fool you. MY LGS has both RIA's in stock the basic GI and the Tactical model, the price on the GI is 380 and 425 on the Tactical. The 45 dollar price difference is worth just having the better sights, the GI sights are for very difficult to see. If you can find a SA Defender 1911 buy it, a very good gun for not much more money than the RIA, it has a forged frame and slide and match barrel.
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:11 AM
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I have had an Ultra FS 9mm for a couple of years now and approaching 10k rounds.

Gun has been flawless and shoots (for me) as well as any of my other 1911's.

It is not as smooth or have as nice of a finish of higher end guns but works very well.

I went for mine as it came equipped with the adjustable rear sight, FO front sight and G10 grips as well as a magwell -- all of which I would have ended up adding if I had bought the base model so it was an easy decision.

Only items changed are normal maintenance items (recoil spring every 5k rounds) and the hammer/mainspring once as preventive maintenance. I have also swapped out the FO rod for green as that is what I run on all of my handguns.

If I were to do it all over again I would have gotten a model with a rail so I could mount a light, but that's about it.

If you get one the most important thing to do before shooting it is to follow their instructions for a thorough cleaning and then lube. You should do this with any gun but my RIA was pretty well drenched in lube for shipping.
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:56 AM
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first find a different gunshop/ffl holder because those guys are trying to pay their monthly light bill off of your one sale. the $600 is way too high for a basic RIA 1911 GI model. as stated elsewhere, you can find them on Gun Broker for a lot less even after paying the shipping and transfer fees.

next, the RIA is a great gun "for the money". it is not fancy nor a bullseye at 50 yards type gun, but it is quite serviceable and you would be very well armed with one. in the 1911 field they are probably the best deal out there right now and have been so for at least a decade. i'd recommend the version with a beavertail grip safety for shooting comfort and non-GI sights for ease of target acquisition.

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Old 08-27-2019, 11:11 AM
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I think your limiting yourself by only looking at only one brand. It maybe very well within your budget but if it were me I would look within that range to see if just a bit more would or wouldn't be worth the price of admission. I always look at a wider variety before making any specific decision.
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:39 PM
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I think your limiting yourself by only looking at only one brand. It maybe very well within your budget but if it were me I would look within that range to see if just a bit more would or wouldn't be worth the price of admission. I always look at a wider variety before making any specific decision.
the problem with that is that people are always suggesting blurring the line and increasing the budget. for example, if $500 is the limit, a $600 gun is not within reason, because if $600 can be met people argue why not go for 7..... next thing you know there are people talking about $900 guns. there is a reason why people draw a line and hold fast to it.
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Old 08-27-2019, 02:59 PM
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I have both GI and the tactical RIAs. Get a tactical model, and if you're going to carry it, get a 4" model. That's what I carry 90% of the time. I've only had to replace one part - those God awful grips. After a little practice you'll be able to hit the 1" filler stickers most targets have anymore. There is a significant downside to the RIAs, however. After about 8 hours on your side, all my 1911s (low or high end) seem to magically be able to double their weight. An all steel frame is heavy.

*Edit - I also replaced the fiber optic to change the color to one I can pick out more easily. Took about 4 minutes and $8.
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Old 08-27-2019, 07:04 PM
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I have 3 RIA 1911 pistols, 2 FS MS in 45 acp and 1 in 9mm.
All have been good pistols.
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Old 08-27-2019, 07:42 PM
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the problem with that is that people are always suggesting blurring the line and increasing the budget. for example, if $500 is the limit, a $600 gun is not within reason, because if $600 can be met people argue why not go for 7..... next thing you know there are people talking about $900 guns. there is a reason why people draw a line and hold fast to it.
The RIA has a cast frame and slide and so does a Ruger. Much is made of the forged gun parts, but the cast parts work well too. A local gun store with an indoor range has two RIA 1911 pistols in the rental program. One is the GI model and the other is the Tactical and they are among the favorite picks by customers. The owner states they each average in excess of 10,000 rounds per year and he only allows FMJ sold at shop to be used. He cleans them 3-4 times per year, but oils the each time they are rented. At the fourth year I asked him if parts needed to be replaced and he said only recoil springs. I bought a Tactical after seeing this performance.

Alabama is makes an excellent point about cost control. The RIA Tactical will perform very well and last a long time. I will tell you that I own two Springfield Armory pistols and they are my favorites. The standard Range Officer is a great range gun and it has adjustable sight. The Range Officer Compact is a slick little Commander sized gun which is remarkably accurate. The RIA Tactical comes close in performance and is a well made, durable pistol pistol which will last a long, long time. The RIA Tactical is just about half the price of a SA Range Officer and is a stunning value. In subtle ways the Springfield Armory Range Officers may be better, but the RIA is a quality, durable pistol.

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Old 08-28-2019, 08:03 PM
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I have two and my Wife has one.
Be prepared to either work on it yourself, send it in for warranty work or take it to a gun smith. Not that you will have to but be prepared.
The first thing you need to do upon purchase is throw away the magazine that comes with the gun. It's garbage. It may not fail in the beginning, it most likely will, but it will fail you.
You will most likely have to do some smoothing of it to make it feel good in your hand. Ours have the sharpest, most uncomfortable ambi. safeties ever! I took mine off and totally reshaped both sides. Much better! The cheap aluminum mainspring housing is like puppies teeth to the palm of the hand. I smoothed off the rear bottom and much better.
Keep an eye on the inner surface of the barrel. I think they get their barrels from those guys in the jungle that make those counterfeit Colts out of nails and old paint cans.
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Old 08-29-2019, 01:48 AM
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Good evening guys. Thank you all for the input. I don't have experience buying a firearm online but I will look into it. The hardest thing about this is that I live in California. Gun and ammo laws here are much tighter compared to different states. I am glad I went to this forum before jumping to purchase the gun. I knew something felt wrong about the gun dealership I went to. I read mix opinions and will continue to do research and take my time before the purchase. One thing I noticed today too was that .45 ACP is pretty pricey. The cheapest I could find was 230 rounds for $60 before taxes lol. Understandable though as it hits harder than the 9mm. I need some honest opinions though. Would you trust your life with the RIA 1911? Is it your main home defense firearm? I read some jamming issues but I understand it can happen to every firearm. I am hoping to fire the .45 this weekend again if my buddy is available. Thanks again!
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Old 08-29-2019, 03:12 AM
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the problem with that is that people are always suggesting blurring the line and increasing the budget. for example, if $500 is the limit, a $600 gun is not within reason, because if $600 can be met people argue why not go for 7..... next thing you know there are people talking about $900 guns. there is a reason why people draw a line and hold fast to it.
Increasing or decreasing what you decide to allocate is all up to the purchaser of whatever the product.

However I think it best to checkout the various options beforehand to make a fully informed decision.

Knowledge is power and well ignorance is just ignorant. So do your best to make the most informed purchase you can possibly make whether you decide to increase the budget or not and that way at least youĒlol have a better idea as to what is and what isnít available. I tend to be happier even if I chose to spend less knowing that going into the decision I made my choice as fully informed prior to rather than after the fact.
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Old 08-29-2019, 03:39 AM
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Increasing or decreasing what you decide to allocate is all up to the purchaser of whatever the product.

However I think it best to checkout the various options beforehand to make a fully informed decision.

Knowledge is power and well ignorance is just ignorant. So do your best to make the most informed purchase you can possibly make whether you decide to increase the budget or not and that way at least youĒlol have a better idea as to what is and what isnít available. I tend to be happier even if I chose to spend less knowing that going into the decision I made my choice as fully informed prior to rather than after the fact.
file that under no **** Sherlock; if money is not an issue... he mentioned a basic RIA GI model selling for $600 [that's too much for a purchaser in the U.S.] and that is what we are addressing.
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:00 AM
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file that under no **** Sherlock; if money is not an issue... he mentioned a basic RIA GI model selling for $600 [that's too much for a purchaser in the U.S.] and that is what we are addressing.
No thatís just a different perspective.
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Old 08-30-2019, 07:44 PM
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My first 1911 and pistol is my 1911 RIA 2-tone model. That gun easily has around 1500 rounds through it. I even qualified for my CHL with it. Once you get past the 500 round break in period then it’ll run anything you put through it. I got the same discouragement when I went into gun stores and told them that’s the brand I want and after talking to them, I figured out that most of them are snobs and think any gun under the $800-1k mark is trash. Go ahead and give it a try and like the rest of us are saying, just change the grips and you’ll be set
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Old 08-30-2019, 08:23 PM
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I paid less than that for my Cdr Tac II Ultra FS in .45. Love It!!! I enjoy shooting it more than my SA GI or RO 9mm...
Around 4 bills tops for their GI model is what I would go...
The Defender from SA was mentioned above...I've heard good things. It's $500 everywhere and I believe SA still has a special going on where you get mags and gear after purchase.
RIA & SAs customer service are both REAL good IMO.
Don't see where you could go wrong, aside from paying $600 for a RIA GI.
GoG has them right now for $411 in my area.
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Old 09-01-2019, 10:30 PM
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Ria

I am from California so I understand. I have two RIA's; a GI Standard in 38 Super and a Tactical in .45 caliber. I have worked on the Super 38 extensively both for improvement and as a hobby. Never a problem. I do recommend the tactical as the addition expense for the already built-in improvements is very cost effective. No regrets in my purchases.
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:45 AM
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From first hand experience with both, I would buy a $500-550 Springer Defender before spending money on the comparable RIA. Greater resale, high visibilty sights and for those aesthetically inclined, slanted cocking serrations if later upgrades are decided upon. Stock, the Springer is far more friendly to shoot. This is because of the RIA GI’s very flat grip safety tang causes the sharp corners at the rear of tang to dig into the web of the strong side hand. It is simple enough to defang either for the cost of abrasive cloth and touch up blue. Dimensionally the Springer is closer to industry standards.

If the beavertail and upgraded rear sights are desired, then a Tactical Rock or a nice used unmolested Springer RO or Loaded may be found.
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Old 09-02-2019, 06:13 PM
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I've had the 1911 basic pistol for about three years now. Mine is in 9mm and has no bells or whistles. Decent trigger shoots well with the small sights. No problems since the first magazine was shot through it. It was the mag that came with the pistol but not a problem since with it or any of the others I've bought. I like mine, it was a good deal.
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:30 PM
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FWIW, a 1911 in 9mm is a hoot. With smoother shooting and bulk ammo about 60% that of 45 ACP it is a tempting caliber alternative.
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