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Old 05-16-2020, 07:15 PM
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Firing pin difficult to push in when assembling

I have two Dan Wesson guns, both commander sized, a V-Bob and a C-Bob. In both, when reassembling, one has to jiggle the firing pin for a while before it goes in, I donít have that problem on any other 1911s. What is it about the DW firing pin channel that makes it such a pain to get the firing pin to go down?


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Old 05-16-2020, 08:08 PM
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I had a similar problem with one of my Colts....just have to find the sweet spot and make sure it moves freely back and forth once fully seated 🤷‍♂️
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Old 05-16-2020, 08:28 PM
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It's a DW thing.
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Old 05-17-2020, 05:50 AM
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Put some hair around it.

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Old 05-17-2020, 06:01 AM
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I'm glad someone asked about this. I have the same problems with my PM9.
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Old 05-17-2020, 09:27 AM
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Sorry, not following what you mean


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Old 05-17-2020, 09:33 AM
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I had a similar problem with one of my Colts....just have to find the sweet spot and make sure it moves freely back and forth once fully seated 🤷‍♂️

Once in, itís no problem, but to get it in far enough to slide in the firing pin stop is a hassle. Sometimes one gets lucky and it goes in on 2nd or third push, never right away. On my Kimbers and STI it goes in straightway. I am guessing there is some chamfering near the firing pin hole in those, while Dan Wesson, and maybe Colt, has a flat bottom to the firing pin channel...


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Old 05-17-2020, 09:57 AM
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Once in, it’s no problem, but to get it in far enough to slide in the firing pin stop is a hassle. Sometimes one gets lucky and it goes in on 2nd or third push, never right away. On my Kimbers and STI it goes in straightway. I am guessing there is some chamfering near the firing pin hole in those, while Dan Wesson, and maybe Colt, has a flat bottom to the firing pin channel...
Yes, that could be, but I don't known for sure. Its definitely not so much a problem as it is a just annoying....maybe its because the .38/9mm firing pins are smallest than the .45 ones?
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:21 AM
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Once in, it’s no problem, but to get it in far enough to slide in the firing pin stop is a hassle. Sometimes one gets lucky and it goes in on 2nd or third push, never right away. On my Kimbers and STI it goes in straightway. I am guessing there is some chamfering near the firing pin hole in those, while Dan Wesson, and maybe Colt, has a flat bottom to the firing pin channel...
The firing pin channel is supposed to be slightly chamfered as it transitions to the smaller hole that goes through the breechface. Sounds like some companies are cutting it square instead. It puzzles me how the design drawings for the 1911 pistol have existed for a hundred years, yet some companies still continue to make 1911s their own way without any regard to the original dimensions and tolerances.
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:26 AM
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Yes, that could be, but I don't known for sure. Its definitely not so much a problem as it is a just annoying....maybe its because the .38/9mm firing pins are smallest than the .45 ones?

I think the STI firing pin is also the 9mm one, but could be wrong... it is only a difference of less than 0.02Ē, but possible. If I were making a chamber I would have it shaped to funnel the firing pin toward the hole, just the middle of it, not the whole chamber bottom.


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Old 05-17-2020, 05:17 PM
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With some guns I know I can strip down and clean after range sessions in just a couple minutes.

When it comes to my DW 1911's, I wait until I have more time to spend. Parts don't always drop in as easily as some of my other 1911's.

My patience is really spread thin sometimes.




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I am happy to know it is not just me. The last time I took the firing pin out of my Valor I thought I was never going to get the firing pin stop back in place. That is the kind of thing that makes me hate to clean guns sometimes.
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Old 05-19-2020, 06:46 AM
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As a retired tool maker the phrase was use quite frequently when assembling stuff.

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Old 05-19-2020, 01:13 PM
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I found a small spiral metal shaving in mine. The firing pin was pretty gnarly from it. I tried to clean it up with some sandpaper and a buffing wheel, but I just replaced it with an EGW. The firing pin is still a bitch to get in because the spring causes it to go off center and the tip catches the shelf. Not fun when you are sucking on Kroil fumes and have a six pack in you. I walked away at least twice. A chamfered hole would be nice.
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Old 05-19-2020, 02:56 PM
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I found a small spiral metal shaving in mine. The firing pin was pretty gnarly from it. I tried to clean it up with some sandpaper and a buffing wheel, but I just replaced it with an EGW. The firing pin is still a bitch to get in because the spring causes it to go off center and the tip catches the shelf. Not fun when you are sucking on Kroil fumes and have a six pack in you. I walked away at least twice. A chamfered hole would be nice.

I wonder if there is a tool that can be used to do the chamfering like there is for a barrel. Just need a little to make it much bigger easier...


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Old 05-19-2020, 03:47 PM
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What do you guys push the firing pin with? It's tough enough to get the pin lined up right but I use a punch and it's hard to keep it from sliding off the end of the pin.
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Old 05-19-2020, 03:54 PM
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What do you guys push the firing pin with? It's tough enough to get the pin lined up right but I use a punch and it's hard to keep it from sliding off the end of the pin.
I use a Glock tool which is just a punch. It is a bit of a trick to push straight down without letting the tip slide off.
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