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Old 05-12-2019, 01:40 PM
Sheep Rustler Sheep Rustler is offline
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I've waited a long time to buy this weapon. But it is a very expensive paper weight. I bought the 3" EMP 9mm, beautiful looking gun. First time I shot it about 20% of the rounds misfired, barely a dent in the primer.

Sent it back to Springfield they did a ton of work on it, polished the ramp, actually changed the entire slide. Got it home took to the range and started doing same thing. Finally after an hour of frustration the firing pin stuck in the firing mode.

Sent it back to Springfield and they have it now. Ive owned it 7 weeks, Springfield has had it 5 of those weeks.

Am I just unlucky?
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I've had mine about a year and a half. No issues whatsoever with light primer strikes here. The only issue I had was a severe intolerance for reloaded ammo. Round would fire fine but then brass would expand and wedge in the barrel. This would happen as often as 1/20 rounds and I would have to use a rubber mallet to clear the brass out of the barrel (at least a dozen occasions). In contrast, my Glocks would eat through the same reloaded 9mm ammo without so much as a hiccup. I attribute it to the tighter tolerances of the EMP. As long as I stick to factory (non-reloaded) ammo, my EMP has functioned flawlessly through at least 500-600 rds.

The only other issue was upgrading the sights. The dovetail cut on the front sight is unusual and you will find the number of factory made sights ready to install directly onto the EMP (at least the Concealed Carry Contour) to be very limited. I had to have a gunsmith alter the sights I wanted on the weapon in order to install them (and then pin them).
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Old 06-17-2019, 02:42 PM
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I've had mine about a year and a half. No issues whatsoever with light primer strikes here. The only issue I had was a severe intolerance for reloaded ammo. Round would fire fine but then brass would expand and wedge in the barrel. This would happen as often as 1/20 rounds and I would have to use a rubber mallet to clear the brass out of the barrel (at least a dozen occasions). In contrast, my Glocks would eat through the same reloaded 9mm ammo without so much as a hiccup. I attribute it to the tighter tolerances of the EMP. As long as I stick to factory (non-reloaded) ammo, my EMP has functioned flawlessly through at least 500-600 rds.



The only other issue was upgrading the sights. The dovetail cut on the front sight is unusual and you will find the number of factory made sights ready to install directly onto the EMP (at least the Concealed Carry Contour) to be very limited. I had to have a gunsmith alter the sights I wanted on the weapon in order to install them (and then pin them).
Thank you for this.

I have recently bought the 4 ccc and your post reminded me of my last gun.

Initially it hadsome FTE issues with 115 gr remanufactures. After a diet of 124 gr new production for about 500 rounds the pistol will eat up anything.

I will be careful to break this pistol in with 124 gr new manufacture for a good length of time.

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Old 10-06-2019, 12:59 AM
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I was having some failure to feed on my CCC, so I left the magazines, full with ammo for about 4 weeks then I went back to shoot it. All is well.

Weird.
I think the magazines were putting too much pressure on the way up, and it was making the gun not go into battery. Sometimes, I would have to give it a little tap.

now all works fine.
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Old 10-06-2019, 01:30 PM
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I was having some failure to feed on my CCC, so I left the magazines, full with ammo for about 4 weeks then I went back to shoot it. All is well.

Weird.
I think the magazines were putting too much pressure on the way up, and it was making the gun not go into battery. Sometimes, I would have to give it a little tap.

now all works fine.
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with my small hands I boughtand loved my 1st gen EMP. perfect fit, acurate . first time I had a FTE and then read on here where SA doesnt pin the ejector instead they glue it. I sold that $1200 pistol for an HK P2000SK 9mm and never looked back The HK eats Anything built like a tank and holds Ten rds. I now have it for sale as ive rotated to a Sig P365 (2019 build) It hold 10+1 has short trigger reach like the EMP. The Sig 365 is truly a game changer (and I’m NOT a past Sig fan boy)
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Old 10-09-2019, 07:08 PM
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I am so glad I found this thread as I just ordered my 4" ccc model the other day.

If I understand what you folks are saying is that I:

1. Break it in with heavy FMJ ammunition.

2. Keep the new girl pretty well lubed up.

3. Don't grip it like it's fragile.

How many rounds are considered a normal break-in period?

I am quite excited for the new girl to arrive!
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:58 PM
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Just throwing this out there, the emp 3 now comes with a pinned ejector...no more glue/Loctite ��
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:04 PM
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pinned ejector

if SA is pinning the ejector that is good. They really SHOULD have done that on a $1,200 pistol in the first place..It's a great little gun. Fits my small grip perfectly. But may be too little too late as the Sig P365 and it's variants are the future considering size, capacity, reliability and accuracy. I'll always keep a Colt Commander in the 'stable' though.
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Old 11-08-2019, 05:31 PM
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I am so glad I found this thread as I just ordered my 4" ccc model the other day.

If I understand what you folks are saying is that I:

1. Break it in with heavy FMJ ammunition.

2. Keep the new girl pretty well lubed up.

3. Don't grip it like it's fragile.

How many rounds are considered a normal break-in period?

I am quite excited for the new girl to arrive!

I have both the original 4" and the Contour and enjoy both. I have had zero issues with either one and as a bonus my wife enjoys both. I'm pretty confident you will enjoy the Contour.
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Old 11-08-2019, 05:33 PM
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I have both the original 4" and the Contour and enjoy both. I have had zero issues with either one and as a bonus my wife enjoys both. I'm pretty confident you will enjoy the Contour.
My next EMP will be the 4". How do you like your 365 XL? Love my 365 next up is an XL
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Old 11-08-2019, 07:32 PM
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My next EMP will be the 4". How do you like your 365 XL? Love my 365 next up is an XL
After losing my 365 the 365 XL was relatively new so I purchased the XL as a replacement. So happy I did the platform is much better IMO. Everything about the gun is a bit better.
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Old 11-08-2019, 07:38 PM
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good to hear. Not to hijack this thread. But the 365 365 xl is an absolute game changer for those of us who like small, short trigger reach, and smooth faced trigger (no tab safety)
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Old 11-15-2019, 01:56 PM
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:23 PM
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Here is my EMP 3 after I installed the SFS system. Pic showing cocked & locked. Makes it much more concealable

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Old 12-09-2019, 05:29 PM
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I got tired of the weight so mine (EMP .40) is retired and replaced with a Kimber Pro Carry II in .45 ACP. Never had a single issue with mine.
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Old 01-04-2020, 02:18 AM
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Old 01-12-2020, 11:59 AM
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Anyone have any suggestions for a OWB belt holster or shoulder rig for 3” EMP?

I tried desantis’s cocked and locked and it did NOT fit cocked and locked. Could still close strap with hammer down so I returned it. Stuck with the included holster at the moment but would like something nicer in either leather or Kydex that isn’t a paddle.
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Old 01-12-2020, 01:27 PM
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I use a Galco Fletch


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Old 01-12-2020, 04:55 PM
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And the Fletch lets you carry cocked and locked with a tight fit between hammer and slide??
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Old 01-13-2020, 07:16 PM
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I've been using and really like the Galco SSS Side Snap Scabbard (GEN2). Easy on and off, secure and comfortable. Conceals well and offers a good grip on the weapon.

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Old 01-15-2020, 07:40 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. I’m gonna try the fletch as I could use a high riding one to be able to conceal in summer. The snap one looks like it would be nice to get on and off quickly without having to remove belt each time or use a paddle though... I’ll keep it in mind.
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Old 01-19-2020, 03:54 PM
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The Fletch in FT218 didn’t work for me. Had molded plastic on the inside of the thumb break that appears to be to keep safety engaged but interferes with the safety on my gun. Maybe it’s an updated design as others said it worked for them or maybe they have aftermarket safety’s. Galco CS sounded pissy and claimed “that’s why we don’t list it for EMP” 🤷‍♂️ Gonna return it and probably stay away from them or buy through third party with better return policies.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:11 PM
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:11 PM
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I’m new to the EMP family. I picked up my 3” EMP 40 on Monday, and took it to the range Monday night. I’m sure it’s purely coincidental, but I woke up this morning with the flu.
Anyway, I picked up 4 brands of factory...Herters, Winchester, Maxx-Tech, and Fiocchi, weights from 165gr to 180gr. Everything fed clean, and all but the first Maxx-Tech round went bang. On the Maxx-Tech, I just cocked the hammer again and it fired. I shot 3 full magazines of each ammo brand.
I’ve got enough ammo left to run the same trial again when I recover.
I read through a number of posts stating that it doesn’t like reloads. I wish I’d read that before buying. I start a new pistol with factory ammo, but switch to my own loads after a suitable break-in period. I only shoot so I can load. Well, I’ll have to cross that bridge when I get to it.
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Old 02-19-2020, 04:04 AM
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I was having some failure to feed on my CCC, so I left the magazines, full with ammo for about 4 weeks then I went back to shoot it. All is well.

Weird.
I think the magazines were putting too much pressure on the way up, and it was making the gun not go into battery. Sometimes, I would have to give it a little tap.

now all works fine.
When that happened would the slide stop pop out a little?
I'm experiencing this with my pistol ( contour 4") and the slide stop will pop out a little. I push it in and it completes the cycle.
I was wondering if it could be magazine related somehow.
I have a shipping label at home but want to work through it a little more before sending in.

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Old 02-19-2020, 08:02 PM
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When that happened would the slide stop pop out a little?
I'm experiencing this with my pistol ( contour 4") and the slide stop will pop out a little. I push it in and it completes the cycle.
I was wondering if it could be magazine related somehow.
I have a shipping label at home but want to work through it a little more before sending in.

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More than likely the extractor is too tight-not allowing the base of the round to slip up into position.
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