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Old 06-30-2019, 07:01 AM
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Slide not staying back/last round

So, got around to shooting the pawn shop FEG. Runs great, more accurate then I am, good trigger, no bite etc...

The only issue is the slide doesn't stay locked after last round no matter what mag is used. Before I do something drastic like mill the slide notch and fit a factory fn slide stop, does anyone have ANY ideas on working with the current factory FEG slide stop to get correct function?

I will add that hand cycling the slide on an empty mag, it works fine and positively locks back every time, with every mag.
It may have something to do with the small slide notch (pic) on these FEG models with extended slide notch. Also wondering if a spring guide with more pressure on the slide stop ball detent would help??
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Old 06-30-2019, 09:32 AM
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Hi, Id try another slide stop before removing any metal. IMO the original style slide stop looks better on a traditional slide pistol. In fact - I have one of the slab sided, ramped FEGs with the same 1911 style slide release. When I considered changing it for a traditional one - some experts said it may not work properly. It is possible that your S.L. was changed out before you got it. Just my guess - good luck.
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Old 06-30-2019, 11:03 AM
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So, got around to shooting the pawn shop FEG. Runs great, more accurate then I am, good trigger, no bite etc...

The only issue is the slide doesn't stay locked after last round no matter what mag is used.

Before I do something drastic like mill the slide notch and fit a factory fn slide stop, does anyone have ANY ideas on working with the current factory FEG slide stop to get correct function?

... Also wondering if a spring guide with more pressure on the slide stop ball detent would help??
I seem to recall that a worn out spring in the recoil spring GUIDE ROD will cause the slide to close on an empty mag. Per a recent BHSS video, you can check this by pushing up on the locking end (fear end) of the slide stop. If it stays up, or doesn’t reliably go back down, it’s probably time for a new guide rod.

I have some of the new BHSS buffered guide rods with the replaceable spring on order. I’m thinking they will be shipping soon. I’m very excited to try them out! Standard guide rods are also easily available. I’ve replaced them in several of my Hi Powers.

Re the slide stop- I kinda like the RDIH extended version. It works just fine in my older FEG (SN 14,000), Tisas and six FN High Powers ranging in age from 2004 to 1943. It also simplifies disassembly... I no longer need to lock the slide back with the safety lever to take the slide stop out. I think it’s a brilliant device. Had this been designed in 1935 we’d have never looked for another option.

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Old 06-30-2019, 11:28 AM
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try a new Mecgar mag and or order some +5 percent springs from Wolff
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Old 06-30-2019, 02:30 PM
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Problem with simply changing slide stops is finding another "small tab" feg stop to swap out. There should be no issues with properly machining slide notch for a standard slide stop... however if anyone knows where I can get a feg small tab, please message me.

I've tried brand new mecgar, brand new "browning" and several contract mags, dont seem to matter.

I may swap out spring guide to see if it's that detent ball spring....
Thanks for the replys.
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Old 07-26-2019, 02:18 PM
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Try shooting with only one hand and see it it locks back. In recent years I've been away from the Hi Power and shooting mostly Glocks, and during that time I learned to use a modern "high thumbs" or "thumbs forward" grip technique. Upon returning to the Hi Power I found I was having problems with slide not locking back, and at other times locking back prematurely. I soon figured out that my left thumb was riding the slide stop and causing issues. I will continue to shoot thumbs forward, but I'm retraining my left thumb to ride lower so it's on the frame just below the slide stop.
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:07 PM
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MIVC very good point. I do ride the thumb safety, and on this feg the thumb safety and slide stop are awful close... ��
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:11 PM
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MIVC very good point. I do ride the thumb safety, and on this feg the thumb safety and slide stop are awful close... ��
Next time you are at the range. Take a piece of duct tape and put it on the frame where you can index your finger so it is not in contact with the slide stop/release. Shoot the pistol making sure you keep contact with the tape. If the gun runs 100% then it is you not the gun. If you keep your finger off the slide stop and it still does it then it is the gun.
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:32 PM
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Sounds like weak magazine springs and/or an overly strong recoil spring to me.
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:41 PM
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Have you verified that your guide rod is in good working order? If its spring is shot, you may need a new one.
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Old 07-26-2019, 07:39 PM
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Does it regardless of recoil or mag springs, already ruled those out. MIGHT be weak detent plunger in recoil guide, haven't tried a new one.
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Old 07-26-2019, 09:24 PM
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Does it regardless of recoil or mag springs, already ruled those out. MIGHT be weak detent plunger in recoil guide, haven't tried a new one.
Do the test. With the slide closed, if you press the back end of the slide stop up (like in disassembly) and it doesn't go right down, you need a new recoil spring guide rod.
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Old 07-26-2019, 10:25 PM
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Do the test. With the slide closed, if you press the back end of the slide stop up (like in disassembly) and it doesn't go right down, you need a new recoil spring guide rod.
Thank you, will try this. Looking forward to getting the few bugs worked out of this one as ide like to make it my EDC.
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Old 07-27-2019, 12:10 AM
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FYI - In my experiments the small tab FEG stop works fine on an FN/Browning slide, but not the FN slide stop on an FEG slide.
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Old 07-27-2019, 12:17 AM
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... however if anyone knows where I can get a feg small tab, please message me.
Does this look like the part you need?

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1619240A
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Old 07-27-2019, 07:28 AM
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FYI - In my experiments the small tab FEG stop works fine on an FN/Browning slide, but not the FN slide stop on an FEG slide.
The FEG slide slot definitely would need to be milled for a standard FN slide stop to fit. No problem, about a 90 second job on the Bridgeport.
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Old 07-27-2019, 07:43 AM
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Does this look like the part you need?

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1619240A
THANK YOU.... gonna order one for backup regardless if it's the culprit or not.
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Old 07-27-2019, 07:55 AM
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If the gun was new, it would probably be just the new and not broken in yet recoil spring. If the spring is strong, the ammo has to be hot enough to push the slide back far enough to lock it with an empty magazine. That may explain why hand-cycling will lock the slide with a magazine inserted. Try stronger/hotter/better ammo. The new brands of range ammo are pretty weak and may not be pushing the slide back far enough to lock it after the last shot.
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Old 07-27-2019, 08:22 AM
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FYI - In my experiments the small tab FEG stop works fine on an FN/Browning slide, but not the FN slide stop on an FEG slide.

The FEG slide slot definitely would need to be milled for a standard FN slide stop to fit. No problem, about a 90 second job on the Bridgeport.
I think I would prefer to alter the slide stop to fit rather than milling the slot. I’m no expert nor gun smith.

With my old FEG, #14xxx, the RDIH Extended Slide Stop works perfectly with a new OEM FN guide rod. A bonus... I no longer need to lock the slide back to disassemble. I just press the rear of the Slide Stop up and push the Slide Stop out. It’s brilliant!

It also works the same perfect way with the BHSS Buffered Guide Rod, which can be repaired should the spring behind the ball ever wear out and fail. I also experience less recoil with the buffered guide rod.

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Old 07-27-2019, 08:32 AM
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The slide would still need to be milled to use the RDIH slide stop, thought about that as well. I've used the springco version of what bhss is selling now, curious if there are differences between the 2
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Old 07-27-2019, 09:23 AM
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The slide would still need to be milled to use the RDIH slide stop, thought about that as well. I've used the springco version of what bhss is selling now, curious if there are differences between the 2
If it is marked RDIH, it’s the same part. The RDIH part works on my FEG without any fitting. I have had to slightly alter one... to work with an FM Detective Slide on an FN alloy frame. BHSS did that for me. That particular slide stop is now marked and dedicated to that one slide.

If you are near Chicago I would let you borrow one of mine for testing...

Not all FEGs are the same. I’ve had to alter mine and clean up some metal burrs to get it to function with its original safety. Mine was rather poorly finished. It has been an excellent gun for learning how all the parts work! Shoots quite well now except for those tiny old sights!
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Old 07-27-2019, 09:36 AM
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This feg has the small slide notch.
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Old 07-27-2019, 09:40 AM
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The difference between the small feg, and standard slide notch...
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Old 07-27-2019, 10:19 AM
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Well there's the reason for my confusion...

Mine is different. Earlier model? Altered? It seems to have it's original finish and the underside of the slot seems to be the same as the rest of the gun. It was $250 a few years ago, used. My first clone.

Mine is B 14xxx.
Did they change things at some point?

I can't locate the slide stop it came with, but now I'm quite interested to find it.
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Old 07-27-2019, 10:34 AM
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Well there's the reason for my confusion...

Mine is different. Earlier model? Altered? It seems to have it's original finish and the underside of the slot seems to be the same as the rest of the gun. It was $250 a few years ago, used. My first clone.

Mine is B 14xxx.
Did they change things at some point?

I can't locate the slide stop it came with, but now I'm quite interested to find it.

Its the later FEG models with extended slide stop that have the small notch.
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