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Old 12-19-2018, 11:38 AM
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Has anybody received the new model 9mm Brown?
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Old 12-22-2018, 10:22 AM
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I guess that my question is answered.
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:15 PM
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Got my first one in today. Will try to take some pics later. First impression-Nice!
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:21 PM
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Thanks, love to see pictures.
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Old 01-10-2019, 05:15 AM
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Looking forward to some feedback myself.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:40 PM
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Here's a couple of pics of the first one of a couple I ordered when I got the message about them some time back. As I'm a dealer, I haven't shot this one, but I will tell you that I'm very tempted to! Hopefully, after a few more come in, I'll take one for myself, as I am a shooter, as well. I expect these pistols to be well received in the price range they are in, with the features incorporated in them. Now, if I can post these pics correctly! If they don't come out, maybe one of you regulars can walk me through the process.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:25 PM
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Thanks for the pictures. Can't wait for mine to be finished.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:29 PM
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Looks great. Thank you for sharing! How do these feel compared to other EBs that you have handled?


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Old 01-11-2019, 06:50 PM
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Very nice looking gun..........no frills, but all the Ed Brown quality.........
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:29 PM
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I like it except for the grips and the tri-cut slide top is a nice feature
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:40 PM
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This is the first time I have noticed the external extractor. Wonder what the reasoning is behind that ? I like the looks of it. I've just about convinced myself that those aren't really front cocking serrations.

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Old 01-12-2019, 04:11 AM
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I like the looks of it. I've just about convinced myself that those aren't really front cocking serrations.
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:36 AM
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Looking at the muzzle pic, I canít help but feel a desire to reverse crown the guide rod to match the barrel.
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:54 AM
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This is the first time I have noticed the external extractor. Wonder what the reasoning is behind that ?
I have never seen an external extractor on a 1911, but I did own a post 1962 Browning High Power 9mm with an external extractor, which worked great. And the long HK and Sig 9mm external extractors have also worked for me.

Besides Brown, Wilson just switched over to an external on their new quasi 1911/9mm X9 design.

Personally, I think that an internal extractor on a 1911/9mm is problematic. Brown does an excellent job using very flexible, tough 4340 steel in their internal extractor. This steel is used in aircraft landing gear and military applications. However, because of the difference in dimensions of the 9 versus 45, I find removal of the internal extractor for cleaning or adjusting on a 9mm/1911 to be an occasional adventure, even with a specific tool for the job.

Also, internal extractors occasionally get out of spec regarding bending/tensioning, which does not seem to be a problem with external extractors.

But there are plenty of folks on this forum who are satisfied with their internal extractors.

It appears to me that Brown and Wilson are moving to designing new models around the 9mm cartridge, and, therefore, moving towards the rest of the 9mm world by using the external extractor. See the Wilson Spec Ops 9 (still internal, but many changes), the KC9, and the X9 for movement towards more modern 9mm designs.

The Kimber extractor problems gave externals somewhat of a bad rap, but those were related to design and were addressed by Kimber.

I think that the Ed Brown rep should be able to give a more thorough answer on what their thinking was.
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:19 PM
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The fit and finish looks great, I hope they all have that attention to detail.
Hopefully mine will be in soon. I had a dream last night that they were
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:06 PM
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It's at the top of my list to check out at the SHOT Show.
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Old 01-15-2019, 01:37 PM
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Fit and finish are as expected, very nice. My litmus test is my wife's opinion, and after she handled the Gen 4 that I just got in(she's not much into plain stainless), she remarked that she should keep one...anyway, I think the Browns have a real winner here. I usually like my guns a little more "dolled up" with serrations, etc., but this gun accomplishes many things in the sub $2K range.
I'm also a long time Wilson Combat dealer, and I carry daily. I've been carrying and shooting my EDC X9 with its external extractor with no issues. I would expect the same from the Browns.
Just got this one in, which my wife liked, except she's not fond of the stocks!
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:14 PM
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I agree with your wife. Already got replacement Esmeralda grips for when mine arrives.
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Old 01-16-2019, 01:46 PM
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Mr. Yoast, Have you tried them out in say a Milt Sparks to see how the fit is?
Just wondering if I can use the holsters I have or not.
Thanks!


Damn-it..Now I find myself looking here every day to see if more of the KC9's are showing up.
I keep waiting for the "Call" I ordered mine on November 8th.
I wasn't sure which one I liked more so I ordered one of each...
Just like the Army, Hurry up and wait...
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Old 01-16-2019, 02:33 PM
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Your existing 1911 holsters will fit if they don't have a sweat shield on them. The KC9 dimensions are different enough that the thumb safety won't line up with a standard 1911 so you could run into an issue with the holster disengaging your thumb safety with it pressing against a sweat shield that was molded for a standard 1911.

Also, the profile of the KC9 slide is thinner than a standard 1911. Take a look at my pictures of a KC9 pistol mold in a 1911 holster.



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Old 01-22-2019, 04:34 PM
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Kc9

I was lucky enough to receive the stainless KC9 shown above, and I must say, what a terrific pistol and purchase experience.

Having bought high-end pistols in the past, I was familiar with Allanís name, but have never had the fortune to deal with him. Allan was great to talk to, shipping was fast, price was great, and the pistol is beautiful.



This is my first Ed Brown Iíve owned since a Kobra Carry I purchased back in 2008. There is no decrease in quality in this gun compared to that 2008 custom. Fit and finish is perfect, tight barrel lock up, and some nice features.

One thing I havenít seen mentioned is, though this barrel is a bull barrel, it is also fluted to reduce weight.



I have no problem with the external extractor, I thought that problem had been answered years ago. When done right, it works, and it works well.

I also find mine fits fine in the few 1911 holsters I own, two leather and one Kydex.

Thank you again Alan for a great buying experience. Iíll look to you in the future because next I will be looking for a Wilson Commander in .45 ACP

Hope yíall have a great week!





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Old 01-22-2019, 09:36 PM
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Sweet looking pistol. I also did not know the barrel is fluted. Let us know how it shoots.
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Old 01-22-2019, 11:24 PM
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That looks really nice. I want one in stainless without the bobtail.
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Old 01-23-2019, 01:05 AM
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Finally got to fondle one today. Although the slide is thinner than their standard slide, the frame is not , so in the hand, it feels like any other Kobra Carry.
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Old 01-27-2019, 10:32 AM
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This is the first time I have noticed the external extractor. Wonder what the reasoning is behind that ? I like the looks of it. I've just about convinced myself that those aren't really front cocking serrations.
The slide is much slimmer than a regular 1911, so the room to put in a regular extractor is not there. There may be other reasons, but that was pointed out to me by a Brown rep. I have no problems with them, my EE guns don't require the attention 1911 extractors do. They either work or they don't and fix easy if they don't. But then again, they aren't 1911s.
I've never looked at and EB gun except by ads or in a display case. I was able to physically compare this gun with others. It seemed to have the fit and finish of the other more expensive EB guns in the display. The slide felt like it was greased glass on oiled ball bearings. The rep mentioned that with the 9mm, they could use a single lug design, taking some of the friction out of unlocking but they put a lot of work into the slide fitting/rail polishing. Limited options help them keep price down, but I could not see anything else I'd want on it. It looked for a lot of gun for the money.
Really nice gun. For $400 over the Staccato 9 and $1300 under the Wilson EDCX9, it would be a pick for me.
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