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Old 11-20-2014, 09:10 AM
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usgi .50 cal ammo can. The ammo inside will outlast the shooter. Throw in some silica packs if you're really concerned.
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Old 11-20-2014, 02:46 PM
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usgi .50 cal ammo can. The ammo inside will outlast the shooter. Throw in some silica packs if you're really concerned.
Only if I forget where I stashed it. :-)
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Old 11-20-2014, 02:47 PM
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I used to teach Aerospace Physiology. 14.7 is not a vacuum. It the average air pressure at sea level
I am glad that you didn't teach English. ;-)
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Old 11-25-2014, 07:48 PM
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The old Winchester Silvertip ammo boxes with the foam cartridge holders make for rattle free bug out bag storage. I keep two boxes of 9 mm in plastic bags to keep them waterproof.
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Old 11-25-2014, 08:14 PM
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The vacuum sealers do not require you to pull full vacuum before sealing. Just suck a little of the air out and then seal. No potential problems then.

Another solution is to find a good convenient size Tupperware container your wife won't immediately miss. Throw in a small silica pack for desiccant if you are worried about moisture.
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:43 AM
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Recurveman. Your method is good and needs no modification. I have reloaded 9mm 115gr HP that I use for range ammo put up in 50-rd baggies, each with a desiccant bag. Its been this way for 20 years and the desiccant bags still show blue, indicating 'good'. And these are the cheap, thin sandwich baggies, not the HD freezer bags that you're using. When putting up ammo this way, all you do is push all the air out of the bag that you can - doesn't have to be a 'vacuum'. A vacuum would also be fine if you have the machine to do that but the other way is fine too.
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:50 AM
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I am glad that you didn't teach English. ;-)
Perhaps his composition and grammar are questionable but the facts are stated clearly.
Also, another poster said that 'technically, 14.7 psi could be a vacuum if on the other side of a barrier the pressure were higher' (I paraphrase). That is simply incorrect - there is no air pressure in a vacuum. For example, let's say you have 35 psi in your truck tire - do you think that means the atmosphere outside the tire at 14.7 psi is considered a vacuum?
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Old 11-26-2014, 10:45 PM
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Technically, a vacuum is any pressure less than atmospheric, or 14.7 psi.
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Old 11-26-2014, 11:08 PM
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Ammo storage in bug out bag.

Ammo in heavy plastic ziplock bags, air pushed out with some silica packets. 12 gauge, 45 and 9mm. 22 in plastic containers in another pocket.
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Old 11-27-2014, 05:05 PM
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Technically, a vacuum is any pressure less than atmospheric, or 14.7 psi.
O psig= 14.7 PSIA ( absolute ).
Any negative number below o psig is considered a vacuum. on bar gage manifolds we go down to 30 HG inches of mercury.

Gravity is 14.7 rounded off. converted to gage is O.
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Old 12-09-2014, 03:49 PM
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O psig= 14.7 PSIA ( absolute ).
Any negative number below o psig is considered a vacuum. on bar gage manifolds we go down to 30 HG inches of mercury.

Gravity is 14.7 rounded off. converted to gage is O.
not really. a vacuum is the inverse of pressure, and really has nothing to do with 1ATM.

example. spinning a turbo via turbine is where the work is done and a pressure diff is created between inlet and exit, the inlet impeller creates the vacuum on the inlet side, or in other words, the 1ATM pressure flows into the turbine due to pressure diff.

now lets looks at it another way, your air compressor is a tank filled with pressurized air, typically meaning greater than 1ATM and that air will flow back out to the 1ATM "vacuum" when released, etc. but, if the tank wat 24ATM and the outside was also 24ATM, no pressure diff and thus no flow.

its only the diff that matters.
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Old 12-11-2014, 06:17 AM
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Old 12-11-2014, 01:40 PM
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an odd pic indeed. would be very hard to vacuum in space. you could however bring a CO2 cylinder and power-blow all that space dust

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Old 12-11-2014, 01:54 PM
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Technically, a vacuum is any pressure less than atmospheric, or 14.7 psi.
So, most of Colorado is in a vacuum? With some of the politicians here, I believe their thought processes just may be!
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Old 12-19-2014, 05:47 PM
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Plano has a whole line of boxes that are water tight and sort of color coded.
Some small, some large, some come in single layer thin and double layer thickness.

I use the red gasketed one for 30-06 and it holds 40 rounds and i keep one in the rifle case.

I use the yellow gasketed one for 7.62x54R and it also holds 40 rounds and I keep one in the rifle case.
The red and yellow are both close to the same size and can easily fit in a back pocket.

I use the Blue one is larger than it looks and I use it to hold cleaning supplies, and another for gun related tools.

The Outdoor Products box I use for Shotgun shells as well as a .50 cal ammo can.

I still have to see about pistol ammo but will probably go with something from Plano.
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Old 12-20-2014, 11:07 AM
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This is completely incorrect.

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Technically, a vacuum is any pressure less than atmospheric, or 14.7 psi.
The atmospheric pressure at say the top of Mount Everest is considerably lower than one BAR. or one atmosphere or 14.7 lb. per square inch. (Pick your nomenclature). However the top of Mount Everest does not reside in a vacuum.
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Old 12-23-2014, 07:43 PM
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The atmospheric pressure at say the top of Mount Everest is considerably lower than one BAR. or one atmosphere or 14.7 lb. per square inch. (Pick your nomenclature). However the top of Mount Everest does not reside in a vacuum.
but if you built a 1" dia tube from say sea level to top of Mt E, you would get air flow due to pressure diff ??
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:28 PM
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Old 01-01-2015, 07:12 AM
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My ammo is in mags and those are in mag pouches (the six pack kind) ready to go. Ammo storage of larger amounts than that is stored in ammo cans, that's why they call them ammo cans.
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Old 01-01-2015, 10:39 AM
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my ammo is in mags and those are in mag pouches (the six pack kind) ready to go. Ammo storage of larger amounts than that is stored in ammo cans, that's why they call them ammo cans.
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Old 01-01-2015, 01:53 PM
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Foam lined Otter Box with a bandanna packed in there to keep the rattle down. 40 rds. of .308 per box.
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Old 01-01-2015, 05:43 PM
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Hmmm, I've shot ammo that my dad bought when I was a kid and I found after 30 years of it laying around our basement. It was stored in the original boxes. This was .22LR, .38 Special, and 9MM. A vacuum bag seems like way overkill and could impede access to the ammo. A much easier and cheaper solution would be to use bullet sealer on the primer and bullet-case joint:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/954...-1-2-oz-liquid

If your bug-out bag gets so wet that it somehow ruins your ammo, my guess is that you'll have much bigger problems to worry about.


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Old 01-01-2015, 09:01 PM
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Ammo can get wet and still be fine. You can even use ammo found underwater.
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Old 01-01-2015, 09:16 PM
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I cannot believe the fail in this thread.
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Old 01-02-2015, 08:16 AM
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From the official PMC web site:

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