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Old 08-05-2019, 08:58 PM
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Plain Jane 1911 Pistols

Let me say at the outset that there is a place for what I will call modern 1911’s with all the bells, lights, whistles and bling. All the “modifications” like beaver tails, mag wells, tactical sights, skeleton hammers and triggers, checkering and other upgrades serve a purpose and in some ways make the pistol a better tool.

That said, I’m one of those who really like the plain Jane pistol. There is something about the GI pattern pistol whether it is a Colt (my favorite), Springfield, Auto Ordinance, Rock Island or whatever brand you prefer. Call it nostalgia, old fashioned tastes (I am an old goat) or throwback to a simpler time, I believe there is a place for old plain jane. It will serve well for plinking, informal target shooting, bed side piece or concealed carry. I certainly hope they never go out of style or manufacture. I hope there are others who feel the same as I do. Long live plain Jane.
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:08 PM
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I'd say that you are not alone as pistols like the Dan Wesson Valor and A2 have done well in a sea of modern tactical pistols. I think they are both fine examples of a more traditional pistol.

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Old 08-05-2019, 09:32 PM
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I appreciate the lines of old plain Jane but I certainly appreciate at least a few of the modern upgrades (my first 1911 was a Springfield GI).

The beavertail is a must for my hands if I don't want hammer/slide bite, also I need more visible sights if I actually want to shoot it well, though simple 3 dot like the R1 work fine.

Not needed but appreciated are the extended safety and a medium/long trigger, just hand fit and preference there.

Something like the Valor or even the Ruger SR1911 fits me better than, say, a standard series 70.

The DW A2 seems to try to capture the best of both worlds and seems like a great compromise to me, though I don't own one.

Though, at the end of the day I can still make the ol plane Jane Springer GI work fine.

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Old 08-05-2019, 10:16 PM
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Nighthawk Trooper. Not exactly the original 1911 or A1, but simple, clean, and with only those improvements that (in my opinion) are really necessary: beavertail, better sights. No magwell, no drilled trigger, no FCS. Really like mine, tho' it's in a non-traditional caliber, 9mm.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:30 PM
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“The beavertail is a must for my hands if I don't want hammer/slide bite, also I need more visible sights if I actually want to shoot it well, though simple 3 dot like the R1 work fine.”

Like you, jr24, I get bitten by the standard spur hammer and grip safety. By using the Harrison retro hammer that issue is resolved and I can use the standard grip safety. The three dot Colt sights work for the majority of my shooting and give the pistol the traditional look.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:51 PM
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Tiny GI sights: check.
Rough, heavy trigger: check.
Bite-prone spur hammer: check.
Loose fit of all parts: check.
The look and feel of history: check.

Not bad for a crappy old rattle trap.



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Old 08-05-2019, 11:22 PM
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I've shot two mags through a real GI 1911........it's quite different but I loved it. Objectively everything is worse but it will hold a single 1.5 inch hole at 10 yards going slow plus it's so surreal and fun to use. It really gave me perspective of where the platform came from vs where it is now.
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:29 PM
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I like 'em like John Browning envisioned them---fit for combat in muddy trenches.
I doubt that has been improved upon.
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:37 PM
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I vaguely remember what a rattle trap the 1911 I was issued in the Army almost 30 years ago was. My Dan Wesson and Wilson Combats are whole lot better in a number of different ways.

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Old 08-05-2019, 11:47 PM
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I like 'em like John Browning envisioned them---fit for combat in muddy trenches.
I doubt that has been improved upon.
Objectively the modern guns are better in every way but I get ya, something endearing about the original pattern of anything.
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Old 08-06-2019, 12:05 AM
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I like my [email protected]’s with no bells, no whistles, plain Jane, I like my women with no make up too. Everything just looks prettier that way. Well sexy too.
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Old 08-06-2019, 02:44 AM
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A simple hi rise beavertail grip safety doesn't cost a lot to implement and makes for a more comfortable, controllable, and flatter shooting gun. I was once all about nostalgia...until I started shooting more.

There are guns I have that rattle after a decade or more of use. I find coming out of the box that way unacceptable in this day and age of modern manufacturing techniques.
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Old 08-06-2019, 03:56 AM
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Plain Jane 1911 Pistols

This is the most modern one I have, 2017



My two favorites

1943



1970



Love plain Jane. And they will both get the job done (25 meters)




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Old 08-06-2019, 04:33 AM
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Been having a lot of fun with this one on range days, after my serious bullseye practice:

Colt WW II repro
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:40 AM
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This early ( 1982/83) import Norinco is a great shooting Mil-spec. style 1911 .


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Old 08-06-2019, 08:21 AM
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I have a Para Ordnance Expert that is still pretty much stock. I changed the black plastic grips that it comes with to walnut grips. Other than that, I have left it alone. I have thought about tinkering with it but there is just something about the classic look of a 1911. I just cannot change it.
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:31 AM
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Picked up this 1984 vintage 1911 about 6 years ago.
It stays within easy reach. Outta the box stock with near
400 rounds downrange....nary a hic-up.
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:40 AM
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:56 AM
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You and I are on the same page (I'm also an old goat).

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Old 08-06-2019, 04:32 PM
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Crappy thumbnail sight....nope.

Rattail GS...... nope

Smooth front strap..... nope

Spur hammer....nope.

GI thumb safety.....nope

Gimmee a Baer, a Brown, a WC or something similar.

Plain Jane GI's need not apply for me.
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Old 08-06-2019, 04:41 PM
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Been around the block a few times 1942


How bout a plain jane that snuck in a Royal Blue finish?
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:07 PM
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Crappy thumbnail sight....nope.

Rattail GS...... nope

Smooth front strap..... nope

Spur hammer....nope.

GI thumb safety.....nope

Gimmee a Baer, a Brown, a WC or something similar.

Plain Jane GI's need not apply for me.
Somehow you ended up in the wrong thread.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:59 PM
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I always believe simpler is better. However, I am now in my 70's and I require better sights than on the issued 1911's. I could barely see them back in the 60's, but not so good now. I like the sights on my Ruger and RIA guns. On my Commander, I have the King-Tappan sights and they are first class.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:58 PM
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I require three dot sights myself....
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Old 08-06-2019, 07:43 PM
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I agree with you totally! I'm a traditional guy when it comes to guns - blue steel and wood.
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