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Old 05-31-2019, 06:30 PM
Ginge Ginge is offline
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Got some GI mags from a customer today

Had a little old man today give me some mags, and was wondering if anyone knows the manufacturer code on these, or if they’re reliable. I normally run 8 rd colts and haven’t had any issues with them. Could I expect these to be as reliable, or just leave them packaged? They’re all dated the same, so im guessing that they’re from the same manufacturer.
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:36 PM
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Here's a good thread

https://forum.m1911.org/showthread.p...Identification
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:54 PM
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They shoiuld be pretty reliable with 230 ball ammo - wadcutter and hollowpoints maybe not so much.....
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Old 06-01-2019, 01:30 PM
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They look like the mags the CMP was selling a few years ago. I bought a bunch for $8 a piece. The CAGE (manufacturer) code of 1M291 on the bottom is for Checkmate. I have used them in a few 1911's without issue, although on a few I did install Wolff 11lb magazine springs (I had a few left over from a ten pack I bought). They have "GI style" feed lips (vs the Checkmate hybrid or wadcutter lips) and they should feed ball fine.

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Old 06-01-2019, 05:07 PM
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Appreciate that guys.
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:18 PM
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Can you show us the sides and the feed lips? There are a bunch of cheap GI knock-offs that are marked the same way floating around, and they're pure garbage. The real ones are good mags however. BTW 1M291 indicates manufacture by Checkmate Industries.
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Old 06-01-2019, 09:55 PM
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Sure thing.
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Old 06-01-2019, 10:30 PM
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Dimpled followers. Very cool.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:04 PM
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I went ahead and opened all of them to see if they were the same. They were.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:07 PM
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Dimpled followers. Very cool.
Oddly enough, that was something I noticed when I opened the first one. Did all the GI mags have this for the period, of just this manufacturer? Im not very familiar with GI mags.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:54 PM
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The dimpled follower was standard. It helped keep the last round from walking forward under recoil. As far as I can tell your mags are legit. The counterfeit ones I ended up with once had short feed lips and the round count holes didn't even line up with the rounds in the mag.
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Old 06-02-2019, 12:03 AM
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The dimpled follower was standard. It helped keep the last round from walking forward under recoil. As far as I can tell your mags are legit. The counterfeit ones I ended up with once had short feed lips and the round count holes didn't even line up with the rounds in the mag.
Thanks for the info. I started diggin around for info on them last night. I was amazed at the lengths some will go to duplicate them. Glad these seem to be on par with what they should be. Gotta clean them up now. If they were fakes, then I would have used them for target practice.
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Old 06-02-2019, 09:52 AM
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Good score. 1M291 is a known good magazine - you can't have too many of those.
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Old 06-02-2019, 11:48 AM
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Looking the NSN up on WebFlis shows that it is good but it has been declared a terminal item; they may be in stock to be ordered but after that well....last price was $4.29 each...wish I could find them for that cheap! I did think the CMP price of $8 was more than fair. You were allowed to buy ten a year. I bought ten one year and the next year they were still available so I bought ten more.



If you ever feel the need to look up an NSN the public Webflis site it pretty good.

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Old 06-02-2019, 03:36 PM
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So in plain english......where can i buy some of these mags?
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Old 06-02-2019, 06:39 PM
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I believe the CMP finally sold out

You can look around on the CMP E-Store and see if you can find them still there:
https://estore.thecmp.org/?cat=PAS
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Old 06-02-2019, 08:33 PM
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This is basically what they are - CheckMate 7 round, GI follower, GI feed lips.

https://www.topgunsupply.com/check-m...-magazine.html
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:24 AM
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I’ve got a few of those from the CMP and so far they have been fantastic. Always love the story that normally goes with stuff like this as well
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Old 06-12-2019, 05:09 PM
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On the other hand you sometimes run into a batch of 3O4745s wrapped just like those - do not buy. It was a rejected batch and I've never seen one that worked.
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Old 06-29-2019, 12:21 PM
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For the heck of it I looked up the NSN for the magazines the USMC issues with the M45 (NSN 1005-01-575-4072, $1800) and M45A1 (NSN 1005-01-612-6299, $1195).

The M45 CQBP is issued with Wilson 47 magazines, NSN 1005-01-373-2774. Current price is $36.53.



The M45A1 CQBP is issued with Wilson 47CB magazines, NSN 1005-01-617-0530. Current price is $54.30.


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Old 06-29-2019, 12:27 PM
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The M45 CQBP is issued with Wilson 47 magazines, NSN 1005-01-373-2774. Current price is $36.53.

The M45A1 CQBP is issued with Wilson 47CB magazines, NSN 1005-01-617-0530. Current price is $54.30.
Is that the government price?

For us civilian's, Wilson will sell the 47 to you for $32.95 and the 47CB for $40.95

https://shopwilsoncombat.com/7-Round/products/370/

I think the Father's Day sale had the 47CB for $32ish.
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Old 06-29-2019, 12:30 PM
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Yea that's the .gov price. I bought a few of the 47CB's a few years ago from Midway for around $32.

Interestingly if you look at the .gov P/N for the 47 mags it lists a Brownells number, 965-047-470. The CAGE code 0WSZ3 is for Wilson, and the CAGE 12238 is for Brownells. The .gov P/N for the 47CB lists Wilson (0WSZ3) and Colt 3B5H7 with a Colt P/N of SP300262-CD.

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