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Old 03-20-2017, 01:15 PM
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Baer commanche or DW Valor Commander 45

Anyone own both? I'm trying to decide what my next 1911 will be and I want a commander length. Baer is about $400 more. Thoughts?
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:42 PM
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I own both. VBOB is finished a wee bit better. Baer seems to be more accurate and is bank vault tight on lockup.

At the time I bought.....the Baer was about $200 more. Totally worth it. At $400.....tough choice......
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:53 PM
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:06 PM
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I had both, then along came an Ed Brown that was a little out of my price range. I kept the Baer and traded the Valor. No regrets but both very nice pistols.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:40 PM
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I would go with the Les Baer.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:04 PM
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I would get the Dan Wesson. Main reason being the rails are the correct length. I like Baers, but I personally wouldn't buy one of the Commanche models.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:33 PM
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I would get the Dan Wesson. Main reason being the rails are the correct length. I like Baers, but I personally wouldn't buy one of the Commanche models.
This. I like Baers and own a couple, but I wouldn't buy a non 5" due to the rail/slingshot issue.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:01 PM
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I would get the Dan Wesson. Main reason being the rails are the correct length. I like Baers, but I personally wouldn't buy one of the Commanche models.
3rd ^^

The DW Vbob is a first rate pistola. Take the $400 in savings and either buy a case of ammo or plenty of reloading supplies.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:05 PM
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I had both. The Concept vii Commanche would not run consistently. My VBOB is absolutely outstanding. I'd go DW all the way. A UTC against a Valor might be a different conclusion, but I'll never get another LB Commanche.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:33 PM
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I would go with a Stinger, mine runs like a raped ape and is as accurate as my full sized PII.
Mine will not slingshot but I always use the slide stop anyway on all my 1911's, so this is a non issue for me. I like the shorter grip of the Stinger, it makes the gun like a scaled down 5" model. I never got the 3/4" shorter barrel mated with a full length grip frame, YMMV.
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Old 03-21-2017, 04:36 AM
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I couldn't make up my mind either.
So I bought 3 of each of them....
Now I'm good. Good luck with your decision.
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Old 03-21-2017, 05:55 AM
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I couldn't make up my mind either.
So I bought 3 of each of them....
Now I'm good. Good luck with your decision.
How has your Commanche experience been?
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Old 03-21-2017, 06:36 AM
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Given the 2 choices I would go with the DW because of the rail and frame issue. After I had my frame corrected on my Comanche it has been 100% reliable. If the Comanche came with Commander spec. frame I would choose it first. I know a lot of the Comanches run fine out of the box but mine would not. All of my LB are tight beyond belief.
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Old 03-23-2017, 09:34 PM
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How has your Commanche experience been?
Outstanding.
One Mono HW, One TRS and a Concept VII.
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Old 03-24-2017, 08:54 PM
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I have seen the bad press on the LB 4.25" 1911's for years now. I have seen it enough to believe that it is a real issue. But I must say that my Concept 7 which I ordered and recieved in 2012 has been virtually perfect. A few stove pipes in the first 200 or so rounds, but zero failures in the last 5 years. As accurate as ANY 5" 1911 I have ever tried. I have to believe that the 4.25" issue is not as pervasive as may be thought.
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Old 03-25-2017, 04:50 AM
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I have seen the bad press on the LB 4.25" 1911's for years now. I have seen it enough to believe that it is a real issue.... I have to believe that the 4.25" issue is not as pervasive as may be thought.
The LB 4.25" 1911 (9mm) has been one problem after another. I speak from experience.
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Old 03-25-2017, 09:54 AM
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I had both. The Concept vii Commanche would not run consistently. My VBOB is absolutely outstanding. I'd go DW all the way. A UTC against a Valor might be a different conclusion, but I'll never get another LB Commanche.

Similar experience here, except I sent my C8 to Alchemy and they made it run like a dream. My favorite commander now and to be honest I would not trade it for a DW commander even if I could cash out on the price difference plus some.

Buy a Commanche if you are willing to take a chance and spend a few extra $ to make it run
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Old 03-25-2017, 03:22 PM
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Similar experience here, except I sent my C8 to Alchemy and they made it run like a dream. My favorite commander now and to be honest I would not trade it for a DW commander even if I could cash out on the price difference plus some.

Buy a Commanche if you are willing to take a chance and spend a few extra $ to make it run
According to the seller, mine had the Alchemy Reliablilty pacakage as well.
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