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Old 03-14-2017, 09:47 PM
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Security guard shoots bank robber DRT

http://www.wifr.com/content/news/Roc...411363285.html

Repeat robber finally bumped into the wrong bank.
Now taking a room temperature challenge.
C Ya....

Hope the employees bought this guy some beer and wings for a job well done.
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Old 03-15-2017, 07:12 AM
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He did a hell of a job
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Old 03-15-2017, 08:38 AM
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Old 03-15-2017, 10:28 AM
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This old boy should definitely be next in line for a promotion.

And I guarantee the would-be robber won't ever do that again, either.

Proof that sometimes, the criminal life doesn't pay.

DRT. Exactly.
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... somebody picked the wrong bank...
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Old 03-15-2017, 11:05 AM
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Can't armchair QB him as it happened in an instant. But from this freeze frame he was very lucky to not have his head blown off. Reaching around he's not on target and we can see the robber had guards head in his sights. Definitely used one of his 9 lives in that millisecond.

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Old 03-15-2017, 11:34 AM
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Man I will bet that got his heart pumping.

Glad that it went the way that it did! How nice of the DA to say that the guard will not be charged.
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Old 03-15-2017, 03:19 PM
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Always someone wants to not pick guy who does a excellent job of taking care of others when it would be easy cower down and let the bad guy go. I wish him well and that if doesn't mess with his head he and his family should be very proud for taking action and putting his life on the line to save others

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Old 03-15-2017, 05:51 PM
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Can't armchair QB him as it happened in an instant. But from this freeze frame he was very lucky to not have his head blown off. Reaching around he's not on target and we can see the robber had guards head in his sights. Definitely used one of his 9 lives in that millisecond.
Amateurs Practice Until They Get It Right; Professionals Practice Until They Canít Get It Wrong. So that is the extend of my armchair QB status. JMHO ...
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Old 03-16-2017, 06:49 AM
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Rule 1: never criticize it if it worked.

And I think he did a pretty good job of going from 0-60 damned fast; he was in a position of having to draw on a drawn gun, which is never going to be easy or safe. The fact that he prevailed is proof he did it right, IMHO.

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Old 03-16-2017, 11:40 AM
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This gets my vote.

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Rule 1: never criticize it if it worked.

And I think he did a pretty good job of going from 0-60 damned fast; he was in a position of having to draw on a drawn gun, which is never going to be easy or safe. The fact that he prevailed is proof he did it right, IMHO.

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I am guessing that the security guard thinks so also.
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Old 03-16-2017, 09:16 PM
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+1911 in all respects. The guard's instinctive drawing and shooting under extreme stress was excellent ... He was paying attention to things.

There's another lesson here ... and that's for those few folks who think carrying in C-3 allows for a timely response. The next time that old recurring subject comes up here (and it inevitably will), this video is all the answer that's needed.

I'm not any kind of expert, just an ordinary gun owner, but I suspect that most critical SD situations outside of one's home occur very rapidly ... just as we see in this security video.
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Rule 1: never criticize it if it worked.

And I think he did a pretty good job of going from 0-60 damned fast; he was in a position of having to draw on a drawn gun, which is never going to be easy or safe. The fact that he prevailed is proof he did it right, IMHO.

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Don't believe I criticized him? Only pointed out how lucky he got.

Here's the video in a more full version. He was alerted as to what was happening by the girl he was conversing with paying attn and fleeing to her right. When she did that he was like 'huh what'? By the time he saw her run off and turned around the robber had already entered and fired a round off into ceiling. Again he got lucky that first round was directed up instead of right at him. He was caught off guard, pun intended.

https://youtu.be/bFxG6JPsiys

That isn't criticism. Only things noticed for us to learn from.
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:02 PM
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The Security Officer is a retired Winnebago County Deputy Sheriff. The perp had opiates and THC in his system.

A NYPD forum has some great commentary. Their thread is entitled,
"How To Turn A Bank Robber Into A Door Stop".
Speculation there is that the officer was rewarded with 6 months free checking - or maybe a free toaster.
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I am guessing Numbnuts didn't bother to case the bank before punching out. He should have picked an easier target.

Am also guessing he didn't know how to shoot a handgun that is being held gangsta-style.

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Old 03-18-2017, 12:24 PM
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Does the guard have a malfunction towards the end of the sequence? Looks like he manipulates the slide.
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Does the guard have a malfunction towards the end of the sequence? Looks like he manipulates the slide.
Yes. It does seem as though he reaches up and racks the slide again.
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He certainly did have a malfunction. It looked like a failure to return to battery and he racked it again. I'm thinking he is shopping for a new pistol about now. I grew up in a time when EVERY bank had armed guards. And then that went away even though all the guys in the Brinks trucks were still armed (and still are). I cannot remember the last time I was in a bank with armed guards. All I see are signs asking you to remove your sunglasses and hat. What a stupid idea that is. I guess they want to get a good video of you AFTER you shoot the place up.

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Old 03-18-2017, 03:12 PM
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This guard did a hell of a job. As stated above, he had to go from Zero to Sixty with no warning, he made use of cover, drew on an opponent who already had a gun out and was firing, returned fire and got hits in... and cleared a jammed pistol in the middle of it. We can discuss tactics and notice details sitting here with our coffee and watching the replay, but he didn't have that luxury. He solved the problem, and nobody got hurt but the guy who needed to. Our man did not fold under the pressure, and put his ass on the line to protect others. And WON the fight. If I lived in that town, he would be picking out a new pistol, but I would be the one paying for it.
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:02 PM
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He's not a security monitor, he's a security guard!
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It's perfectly fine and, in fact, a very good idea to "armchair QB" and "criticize." That's how we all get better. We should be doing regular AAR's, even when things go well.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:39 PM
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It's perfectly fine and, in fact, a very good idea to "armchair QB" and "criticize." That's how we all get better. We should be doing regular AAR's, even when things go well.
Correct.

So what can we learn from the video and thoughts that come to mind after watching it?
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He certainly did have a malfunction. It looked like a failure to return to battery and he racked it again. I'm thinking he is shopping for a new pistol about now. I grew up in a time when EVERY bank had armed guards. And then that went away even though all the guys in the Brinks trucks were still armed (and still are). I cannot remember the last time I was in a bank with armed guards. All I see are signs asking you to remove your sunglasses and hat. What a stupid idea that is. I guess they want to get a good video of you AFTER you shoot the place up.
You want to read an interesting story about armed guards in banks, Google Anthony Chebatoris. The "armed guard" was actually a dentist whose office was above the bank. Case dates to 1937. Was in my home town. Before my time but it was still talked about 20 years later when I was little.
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