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Old 02-25-2020, 03:15 PM
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What 1911s have a slide that is easy to pull back?

I am looking for a 1911 that will be used for protecting my home. Problem that I have encountered is the slide! Some slides are very hard to pull back because some 1911's are more tightly put together than others.
Can anyone here recommend a 1911 that is not as tightly put together and still reliable? Semper Fi Till The Day I Die! Thank-You!
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:00 PM
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Have you tried cocking the hammer before you pull back the slide?
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:05 PM
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My Armscor with the .22 TCM barrel and the hammer back is much easier than with the 9MM barrel installed --
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:06 PM
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I am 68 now, and I have to cock the hammer, before I can rack the slide. You do what you have to do.
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:08 PM
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I find it easier to push the lower frame forward rather than pull the slide back. I read about doing this on this Forum, when I first joined.
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:10 PM
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Have you tried cocking the hammer before you pull back the slide?
This works great, and what I do.

I shared this with the OP elsewhere, the Cammer Hammer, in the event others have the same question on this forum.

https://www.cammertechnologies.com
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:20 PM
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A lighter mainspring or a more radiused firing pin stop can ease this, but as mentioned above in the posts by Indynick and LeonardS are good solutions for .45 ACP. If you are comfortable with 9mm, then the reduced resistance of the recoil spring and mainspring are a good solution as well if you want to shoot/carry a 1911 in 9mm.
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:29 PM
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First - YES, I know it's not what you asked, but would you consider the 9mm Shield EZ instead? Reports are it is super easy to manipulate.
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:42 PM
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Would 9mm be better than .45? I'd assume so. I teach folks with difficulty racking the slide to do it across their body (of course being aware of where the muzzle is pointed) and simultaneously pushing both hands together in a quick motion. I've never had an issue with that technique.
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:59 PM
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I am looking for a 1911 that will be used for protecting my home. Problem that I have encountered is the slide!
Should be a non issue for home defense. You should never have to manipulate the slide or cock the hammer once the gun is readied for business.
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Old 02-25-2020, 07:12 PM
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I find it easier to push the lower frame forward rather than pull the slide back. I read about doing this on this Forum, when I first joined.
I have constantly preached this, maybe it was me
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Old 02-25-2020, 07:14 PM
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I've been noticing that recent production Colts seem to have a slightly lighter recoil spring, closer to 14-15# than the original 16#. That makes them easier to rack but also not as suitable for really hot ammo unless you replace the spring.
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Old 02-25-2020, 07:32 PM
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dsk - Somewhere I read that the original issue (M1911) springs were 14 lb. springs. I don't remember where, but it should be verifiable in some document of that time. J m know the 9MM and Super .38s (before dual springs) were shipped with 14 lb. springs.
And Colts (so far) have never been fitted uber tight - because Colt knows better.... CC
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Old 02-25-2020, 07:32 PM
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I have constantly preached this, maybe it was me
You may be right! It was back when I lived in Iowa and was heading to the Rock Slide in Missouri.
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Old 02-25-2020, 07:43 PM
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Consider a revolver such as the S&W 625.
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Old 02-25-2020, 08:46 PM
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Get an AR for HD, it will be far easier for you to use and exponentially more effective.
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Old 02-25-2020, 09:08 PM
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First - YES, I know it's not what you asked, but would you consider the 9mm Shield EZ instead? Reports are it is super easy to manipulate.
Another pistol that is advertised with a reduced slide manipulation is Springfield Armory’s XDe. It has very similar features as the 1911, such as a hammer (as opposed to striker fired)’ and a thumb safety/decocker. It can be carried cocked and locked like a 1911.
Available in 9mm and 45acp.
I have one as a truck gun in 45acp.

https://www.springfield-armory.com/xde-series/
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Old 02-25-2020, 09:29 PM
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9mm much easier to rack than .45.
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Old 02-25-2020, 09:30 PM
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I think it is the Colt Gold Cup types of target competition 1911 pistols. They are setup to fire a milder .45 auto round than normal in order to maximize accuracy. Thus the recoil spring isn't as strong as normal. The less strong recoil spring makes them much easier to rack the slide. Now granted if you want to fire full house loads then you need the much stronger recoil spring too. They make recoil springs in different strengths for most needs as well.
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Old 02-25-2020, 09:49 PM
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Cocking the slide on my S&W E Series 1911 TA requires that I cock the hammer first or I simply can't do it.

Cocking the slide on my SIG Super Target Nitron without first cocking the hammer is almost effortless in comparison.
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Old 02-26-2020, 05:06 AM
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Pulling back the slide on a 1911

Many people try to grab the slide with their weak hand to pull it back....which is usually more difficult. I suggest trying the following:

1) Assume the gun is loaded and point it in a safe direction

2) Insert an empty magazine and grab the gun with your normal strong hand grip

3) Use the weak hand thumb to cock the hammer.

3) Use the weak hand to "pinch and hold" the rear of the slide on the cocking serrations between your thumb and index finger.

4) Hold the gun away from your body about 18" near mid chest level, then "push your strong hand forward" while holding the slide with your weak hand thumb and index finger.

You should be able to generate more force by pushing your strong hand forward, rather than "pulling" the slide back with your weak hand. Once you have pushed the gun forward as far as possible, the slide should stay locked back by the empty magazine...….

Many people may have been trained to place their weak hand over the top of the slide to pull the slide back.....which usually means their hand is over the ejection port. I do not recommend this method. If a person has a loaded gun with a slightly extended ejector, and the round falls off the extractor as they the pull back the slide, it is possible for the primer to get pushed against the extended ejector and discharge.....
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Old 02-26-2020, 05:25 AM
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Check out the HK VP9 has ears on the rear of the slide which make it easier to rack.

For a 1911, probably any in 9mm.
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Old 02-26-2020, 05:31 AM
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any full size 9mm 1911 will be pretty easy to cycle the slide in comparison to a 45.. a 10# recoil spring vs a 16-18# recoil spring makes a huge difference..
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Old 02-26-2020, 06:47 AM
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dsk - Somewhere I read that the original issue (M1911) springs were 14 lb. springs. I don't remember where, but it should be verifiable in some document of that time. J m know the 9MM and Super .38s (before dual springs) were shipped with 14 lb. springs.
And Colts (so far) have never been fitted uber tight - because Colt knows better.... CC
The blueprint spec listed material, diameter and number of coils and coil diameter. This data calculates to be 14 lbs.
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Old 02-26-2020, 07:18 AM
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If you want to stay in .45ACP, for a house gun I admit to being a fan of higher capacity than a 1911 can deliver - dare I even mention the Glock 21? - lol

Most any handgun without a hammer (striker fired) will have an easier to rack slide than a hammer fired one?
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