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Old 02-24-2020, 08:18 PM
rmangu rmangu is offline
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Colt Upgrade With Wilson Parts

Sounds stupid I know, but I have a great shooting Colt Combat Commander. I also have a Wilson Combat. The difference is easy to feel. I was thinking about putting in a new barrel, springs etc. Would you mess with a great gun or leave it alone? Do Wilson drop in parts work?
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Old 02-24-2020, 08:27 PM
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Old 02-24-2020, 08:34 PM
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If you're just going to "drop in" parts then I would leave the gun as it is. To "improve" an already great gun you must fit quality parts better than the originals were fitted. Spend your money on instructional materials and read up. You'll also need to invest in specialized tools. Keep the springs up to factory specs - ALL of them. Don't forget the magazine springs.

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Old 02-24-2020, 09:41 PM
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What materials would you recommend? I am not up on what is out there that would be beneficial to read.
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Old 02-24-2020, 10:31 PM
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If it already a great shooting Colt I would leave it alone! The Colt is worth more down the road if you leave it alone.
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Old 02-24-2020, 10:33 PM
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Around here, we say "drop-in parts" mean "Drop in on your gunsmith and get them installed right."
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Old 02-24-2020, 11:30 PM
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I don't even have a Colt and I have a few Wilson Combats but even I agree with this.
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Old 02-25-2020, 02:15 AM
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It’s the trigger group and you can’t get there by dropping in the Bullet Proof ignition parts without skill, tools and experience. They (Wilson) however can fit the parts in your Colt. Their secret is experience! If you are doing one gun, pay them. If you plan to do 20 guns, start buying the tools of the trade and then it ain’t happening quick or on the kitchen counter, but you can learn. I went dollar deep in the tool/equipment woods but I knew before I started I was in for the long haul. It was part of my retirement plan. I don’t fish, own a boat, plane, horse or play golf. Without those anchors you can build the shop (I call mine the lab) from hell.

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Old 02-25-2020, 01:59 PM
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It’s the trigger group and you can’t get there by dropping in the Bullet Proof ignition parts without skill, tools and experience. They (Wilson) however can fit the parts in your Colt. Their secret is experience! If you are doing one gun, pay them. If you plan to do 20 guns, start buying the tools of the trade and then it ain’t happening quick or on the kitchen counter, but you can learn. I went dollar deep in the tool/equipment woods but I knew before I started I was in for the long haul. It was part of my retirement plan. I don’t fish, own a boat, plane, horse or play golf. Without those anchors you can build the shop (I call mine the lab) from hell.
Great advice and great retirement plan!
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:03 PM
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It’s the trigger group and you can’t get there by dropping in the Bullet Proof ignition parts without skill, tools and experience. They (Wilson) however can fit the parts in your Colt. Their secret is experience!
Hi,
Very true!

A lot of people don't want to spend the time and money to educate themselves and is a pet peeve of mine, I guess.

This of course, is not directed at the OP, but my observations in general.

JMB was a Genius and his invention does not suffer the uninformed gladly!

I can not afford a $5000 week with a Big Guy National Gunsmith, but I can afford books and DVD's to educate myself on this wonderful pistol!

To the OP, be careful, working on 1911's is a slippery slope and can become addictive!
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Old 02-26-2020, 10:50 AM
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Sounds stupid I know, but I have a great shooting Colt Combat Commander. I also have a Wilson Combat. The difference is easy to feel. I was thinking about putting in a new barrel, springs etc. Would you mess with a great gun or leave it alone? Do Wilson drop in parts work?
Drop in means you'll need to fine tune the parts in most cases, but I see many advantages to going with Wilson parts, mainly because of the use of bar stock. I have a Colt Officers that's in line for a complete Wilson overhaul (by me).
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Old 02-26-2020, 08:23 PM
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If you're just going to "drop in" parts then I would leave the gun as it is. To "improve" an already great gun you must fit quality parts better than the originals were fitted. Spend your money on instructional materials and read up. You'll also need to invest in specialized tools. Keep the springs up to factory specs - ALL of them. Don't forget the magazine springs.
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Old 02-28-2020, 11:38 AM
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I have a stainless Colt Lightweight XSE Commander chambered in .38 Super that I've upgraded with better parts from not only Wilson Combat, but also from S&A and Cylinder & Slide.
My Commander was built in 2014, and came with the current upswept grip safety used by Colt. It also came with the standard mushy Colt thumb safety, and the rattle trap grip safety that Colt has become famous for. The series 80 trigger pull had plenty of noticeable creep so it was also addressed.
I first replaced the mushy Colt thumb safety with a WC extended thumb safety. This upgrade got the sponginess out of it. Next I replaced the rattletrap grip safety with a .250 radius grip safety from S&A. This Grip safety will fit the current Colt frame without modification to the frame, but they will sometimes need a bit of fitting of the arm to your trigger bow. I once saw one of the Colt grip safeties snap into two pieces, so I routinely replace them. I next fit a Cylinder and Slide fire control group with a Rowel style hammer to the Colt. It came with a tool steel prefit hammer, sear, and disconnector. These parts dropped into the Colt frame with no further fitting required. This modification gave me all tool steel parts, and best of all a crisp four pound trigger pull. I've also used a kit from Harrison Design that fit a Caspian frame with no issues. I also routinely replace the factory Colt magazine release with Wilson's 1/16th inch extended magazine release. Wilsons are made from tool steel, and are fully checkered. Slight fitting may be needed. I ended up having the front strap checkered on this pistol which is something that resulted in the biggest improvement of how it feels in my hand.
Before I changed out the parts I did on my XSE Commander, the gun functioned fine. The new parts though refined the gun, and I think made it even more reliable than it was originally. The controls feel more positive, and I have a vastly improved trigger. I value the pistol much higher after making the upgrades I've made.

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