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Old 01-13-2020, 04:53 PM
justdino justdino is offline
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Rear dovetail red dot mount?

Thanks to my 62 year old eyes, I'd like to try a red dot on one of my 1911's.

But if it's a failure I'd prefer not to have a slide milled up.

Has anyone tried one of the dovetail mounts? I'd be curious to see if they've met the need, and been reliable. Reading through the titles in the forum, I didn't see any relevant posts.

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Old 01-13-2020, 05:34 PM
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I tried the dovetail mount before I jumped into having a 1911 milled. It sat really high, and wasnít a great overall experience. I did get enough of a feel for it, that I had my gun milled, now, I donít own a gun that doesnít have an RMR on it. I have vision issues, and it makes shooting fun again, as opposed to frustrating.
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Old 01-13-2020, 06:02 PM
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I have an EGW dovetail mount on my Wilson EDC X9 for a Burris FF3. No problems after about 250 rounds. My groups are much tighter and for my eyes it is well worth it.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:57 PM
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I retired from USPSA (SS) and I've been shooting club level action pistol matches for at least 8 years with a dove tail mounted RMR (Burris FF2). No issues what so ever. All the shooters over 65 get to use them without penalty! Keeps us shooting and enjoying the sport.

Of course the closer to the bore axis the better but no one has milled a slide so far. There are a couple CZ's with milled slides but nobody is making the switch from 1911's!

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Old 01-14-2020, 10:04 AM
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Yes justdino, I had a customer that wanted a 460 Roland conversion and red dot added to his Colt Mark IV. I used the EGW dovetail mount plate for a GI dovetail and for the Leupold Delta Point Pro Red dot. All went together fine. EGW pretty much had 5 pages worth of mounts that you can choose from for your dovetail and for your type red dot.
All has held up well for my customer even with the 460 Roland rounds.
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I thought the overhang due to the slides top radius was ugly but the customer did not mind, being it was going to be a gun he took with him hunting, not for show too much other than bragging to friends.
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:28 AM
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Thanks for the info, reply and pics. I think I'll scrounge up a mount for my Kimber Custom II and see how it goes.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:56 PM
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:19 PM
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Here is the part number from the Burris web site:

410323 Kimber Standard/Target/Bomar

These are available from Optics Planet and other sources, check Amazon and Ebay!

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Old 01-14-2020, 02:59 PM
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Not really relevant to the OP, but as a lifetime 1911 shooter, and also being "old" (late Jurassic Period here), I finally did the RMA thing, but on a factory installed Kimber Aegis Elite Custom in 9mm.

The most fun gun I now own thanks to the red dot system. I can run my steel targets faster now than when I was 25 years old....amazing!



I was a real hold-out for optics on a pistol, but I know now that there's two types of shooters...those who have never tried a red dot, and those that have tried it and now swear by them. I'm sold.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:51 PM
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The dovetail mounts work fine. Only issues are not being able to switch to irons easily and the just look completely terrible. Most people I know that have tried the dovetail mount eventually get their slide milled for a red dot. They are great if you're still on the fence about using a red dot though.
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Old 02-03-2020, 04:27 PM
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Just dropped a Springfield Range Officer Elite Operator off at my gunsmith with an EGW mount and a Venom Vortex. Decided the Kimber Custom II, with the extra pieces in the trigger, wasn't worth the trouble.

Trigger job while he's at it. If I like the way it works, I'll have the slide milled. Thanks for all the suggestions.
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Old 02-04-2020, 05:13 AM
Rwehavinfunyet Rwehavinfunyet is offline
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Red Dot Optics for shooting....

For any age of shooter, red dot optics are easier to use for fast and accurate shooting…..the shooter does not need to line up the front sight with the rear sight, and simply places the red dot on the target and shoot! Depending on the purpose, a Red Dot optic may have a small or big dot.....most Action Pistol shooters like an 8 MOA red dot or larger.....

I started using a C-More railway red dot optic on my STI 2011 race gun for USPSA many years ago in the mid '90's. A very fast and accurate shooter named Jerry Barnhart won the USPSA Nationals using an Aimpoint red dot optic in 1990, and many USPSA competitors followed his lead!

For a concealed carry gun, I would consider milling the back half of the slide so the red dot optic may be mounted lower on the slide....IMHO, this will allow the eye to line up with the optic faster when presenting the gun.....
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