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Old 02-07-2020, 07:21 PM
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M1 Garand

Hey guys....let’s say I wanted to buy one and my budget was $1000.

If I buy one from WWII, what kind of gun can I expect? I would like something I can shoot.
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:46 PM
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Check out the CMP- I picked up a FANTASTIC shooter Garand in November, their Special Rack Grade, for just $650. Brand new Criterion barrel, brand new American Walnut stock, refinished 1943 SA receiver and mil-spec internals.

http://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:55 PM
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Trying to figure out their website. Not easy.

Do they sell guns? Or just auctions? I can’t find a list of available inventory.
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Old 02-07-2020, 08:01 PM
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I see them all over at shows since the upped the limits but would probably still go to the CMP, at least they are serviceable and I'd worry about what the show guns would be kludged together with. I don't know what they go for at CMP these days, mine was 300 bucks (~20 years ago), and I think they have different grades these days. I'd check it out if I were you.
When I got mine it was you get what you get, I told the lady I'd really like a H&R and as it turned out I got what looked like a brand new H&R.
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Old 02-07-2020, 08:43 PM
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Trying to figure out their website. Not easy.

Do they sell guns? Or just auctions? I canít find a list of available inventory.
I agree, navigating their website sucks, and I say this having built websites professionally.
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Old 02-07-2020, 08:43 PM
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Scroll about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way down here. Then look for links near the top under "More Information" for ordering information and eligibility requirements. I THINK you want a field grade and you can ask for a WWII era, and according to videos I've seen they TRY to get you one, but I don't think there are any guarantees.

http://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/
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Old 02-07-2020, 08:58 PM
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Ok...got it. Now need to chose between Service Grade and Field Grade and get my eligibility set up.
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Old 02-07-2020, 09:28 PM
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I go up to the Port Clinton CMP store about once a year. For $1250....get a CMP Special. Completely rebuilt....new furniture.... refinished metal parts and with a new Criterion barrel will shoot lights out.

Rack grade and service grade guns are functional......but they've had the ever lovin crap beat out of em. I mean they are rough. Muzzle and throat wear is pretty significant as well.
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Old 02-07-2020, 09:45 PM
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Just for a comparison, Sportsmans Wharehouse has a sale on ne Springfield Armory M14 style for $1400.00
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Old 02-07-2020, 10:07 PM
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Is there any difference in collectiblity between the 30.06 and the .308 models? Looks like everything decent in .308 (save the $3100 Sniper model) is "SOLD OUT"!!
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Old 02-07-2020, 10:34 PM
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Deyomatic ----- WW2 Era? I think they ALL were made during the war + in the 1930's before the war.

Don't know about Garands, but many military guns were more nicely constructed during the pre-war years (Arisaka's, Thompsons, VIS Pistols, etc)

So is there a reason to request WW2 Garands, other than historical interest?
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Old 02-07-2020, 10:51 PM
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I think they ALL were made during the war + in the 1930's before the war.
Garands were made from 1953 to 1956 by International Harvester and Harrington & Richardson. The were still being issued into the early '60s.
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:16 AM
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Winchesters carry a slight premium because fewer were made. ALL CMP inventory has been armory rebuilt and refurbished at least once, and likely several times. Most folks attach a post-it note to their paper order for any special requests, like WWII serialed receivers.

Most all are 'mixmasters', namely a hodge-podge of correct mil spec parts -most are used - from any of the original manufacturers. the only 'serial numbered' part is the receiver which lists the manufacturer. I went with the Special Rack Grade to get the new barrel and furniture without concern over historical 'correctness' of the individual parts. It is a terrific shooter and an 'economical' choice.
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Old 02-08-2020, 02:51 AM
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I haven’t been able to find anything that shows a Special Rack Grade. Is it something that they run from time to time?

Any photos of yours handy?
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Old 02-08-2020, 07:33 AM
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Hi,

Follow this link and scroll down (it's a ways down) till you get past the Service Grade Grade pricing - any of the three Special Grades will more than meet your desire for a 'shooter'. Some folks like to have one that is 'correct' with all matching parts, but I just wanted a lifetime of shooting.

http://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/

Here is MY thread with pics on the CMP Forum:

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=254491

Happy Shopping.
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Old 02-08-2020, 10:57 AM
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Here's what a CMP Special looks like. Mine is in .308.
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:11 PM
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The special grade guns.

They are the way to go. I need to pick up a few more. The HRA guns are the nicest made guns. The Winchesters are generally the roughest.
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:32 PM
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Join the Garand Collectors Association. It costs $25/year. You get 6 issues of a very informative magazine and eligibility to make purchases from CMP.
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Old 02-08-2020, 08:04 PM
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Join the Garand Collectors Association. It costs $25/year. You get 6 issues of a very informative magazine and eligibility to make purchases from CMP.
That's the best way and fastest means to join CMP for a Garand. If you buy a Garand on the open market, if its a CMP sold M-1 be sure to ask for the Certificate from CMP and it will have the "Grade" printed on the certificate.
Beware of sellers selling Rack Grade models claiming they are Service grade. The post WWII models the better rifles as didn't see hard service and pay attention to muzzle ware, gauge 1 or 2 service grade quality and gauge 3,4,5's Rack grade. I had Springfield's, like new back in the mid 2000 that gauged 1 on CMP 30-06 gauge and they shot like it too.

Check CMP forum, plenty of good guys to help you .........
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Old 02-08-2020, 09:35 PM
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So what is necessary for eligibility to purchase a CMP rifle?

What about the 1911,s they are releasing.

Are there other guns available from that program?

RandyP, I would love to have one like yours for $650.00 !
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Old 02-08-2020, 10:28 PM
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Garands were made from 1953 to 1956 by International Harvester and Harrington & Richardson. The were still being issued into the early '60s.
Also manufactured by Springfield Armory in the 1950's. My CMP 5.9 Million SA Garand dates from early 1956. It is a birth year gun for me.
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Old 02-09-2020, 02:58 AM
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So what is necessary for eligibility to purchase a CMP rifle?

What about the 1911,s they are releasing.

Are there other guns available from that program?

RandyP, I would love to have one like yours for $650.00 !
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/eligibility-requirements/
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:54 AM
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What about the 1911,s they are releasing.
The first yearly allotment of 1911s released for sale is sold out.

It has yet to be determined if/when the next allotment will be released.
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Old 02-09-2020, 10:27 AM
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Is there any difference in collectiblity between the 30.06 and the .308 models? Looks like everything decent in .308 (save the $3100 Sniper model) is "SOLD OUT"!!
I think it depends on what you're going after. The original 30.06 versions have a lot of history and allure. I was fortunate enough to acquire a Correct Grade Harrington & Richardson circa 1954 or 1955 when the Correct Grades were still being sold on their website. The reworked CMP Specials are good accurate shooters. I have a CMP Special in 308 and love shooting it.
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