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Old 07-23-2011, 09:55 AM
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The Best Bullseye .45 ACP?

Which .45 ACP is the most competitive for Bullseye matches?

Which model is winning the most?

Which one is the best?

Thanks for your response.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:28 AM
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With production guns it's going to be hit and miss on accuracy.
If you have a good base gun a competent 1911 smith can make it better with a properly fitted barrel and a few other items.
If you are looking for the ultimate in bullseye accuracy a custom build or rebuild from a top smith may be in order, Jerry Keefer and Joe Chambers specialize in this area but some of the other smiths from this forum can build very accurate guns as well.
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Old 07-23-2011, 04:56 PM
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You may want to look at the Clark Cusom guns.

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Old 07-23-2011, 05:32 PM
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Find a builder first, then ask them.

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Old 07-23-2011, 05:42 PM
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Clark Custom takes 1 year turn around.

I'd recommend KC Crawford (http://kcskustomcreations.com/) for a Bullseye gun in addition to the previously mentioned names. Ed Masaki as well.
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:45 PM
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On my 14 member bullseye team, about half of the guys use Kimbers, then Les Baer--the rest is rounded out by Caspian and Ed Browns with the occasional SW or Colt also owned (backup guns, but not usually shot) for bullseye.

I shoot a Kimber Gold Match myself--just a great gun out of the box. Shoots any ammo with NEVER a fail to go boom. Also use it for pin shoots and Action pistol.
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:49 PM
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they all good

Can't buy the X-ring.



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Old 07-23-2011, 10:21 PM
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Can't buy the X-ring.
If one doesn't want to start with a huge monetary outlay I'd suggest buying a (used possibly) bare bones 1911 for around $400-600. Then after a bit of shooting and figuring out what you "want" and "need" for bullseye, send it to a gunsmith for a full retrofit.

I'd also suggest learning bullseye with iron sights, then later upgrading to a red dot. I think starting with a red dot leads to more trigger-finger issues, especially at 50 yards.
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:46 PM
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Can't buy the X-ring.
You mean "Dey lied to me!?!"




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Old 07-24-2011, 06:51 PM
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nope

You can buy the capability.
Can't buy the ability.


That's the lie I tell meself.



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Old 07-24-2011, 08:14 PM
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Can't buy the X-ring.
As long as the gun and ammo will hold the X-Ring, all you have to tighten is the loose nut behind the sights.

You need to know that 9 or 8 was you and *not* the gun or ammo.

Buy the best firearm you can afford, always.

For an off the shelf gun, look at Les Baer. If you have the coin, get a Caspian frame/slide, a KKM or Kart barrel and have a bullseye gunsmith build it up.
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Old 07-24-2011, 10:07 PM
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Rock river arms, best bullseye guns around. Not iN production anymore but they are still floating around. Jp
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:10 AM
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.45acp Bullseye gun

+1 on the Rock River Pistols! Hope you can find one....

If you decide to have a gun built and you don't have one to start, a STI Ranger in .45acp may be a good start.....$638 from Brazos Custom guns.
Send it to a good Bullseye gunsmith to let them work their magic......
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:00 AM
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You can buy the capability.
Can't buy the ability.


That's the lie I tell meself.
But, if you have no capability, the difficulties are that much more insurmountable with the wrong tool (under time constraints), no matter how much ability you have.

I would say that you need both to succeed.
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:34 PM
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But, if you have no capability, the difficulties are that much more insurmountable with the wrong tool (under time constraints), no matter how much ability you have.

I would say that you need both to succeed.
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:44 PM
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But, if you have no capability, the difficulties are that much more insurmountable with the wrong tool (under time constraints), no matter how much ability you have.

I would say that you need both to succeed.
There is diminishing returns. A $1500 les baer 1.5"-guarantee(even though bullseye shooters like to hate on them) is not 50% crappier compared to a $3000 custom build from a bullseye gunsmith. I even would say someone could make expert with iron sights and a stock Kimber Custom II Target, with reasonable practice.

For 22 pistols, it would take a really good master to realize accuracy differences in a $400 Ruger Mark pistol vs a $2000 European pistol.
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Old 07-27-2011, 05:51 AM
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The most Bullseye accurate gun I have ever seen or fired was a Travis Strahan Accu-Lock gun with the cam locking surfaces. From a Ransom rest, with ammo it liked, it was shooting ten-shot, sub two-inch groups at fifty yards. I could not do anywhere near as well with many of my groups larger than eight inches. Definitely need an upgrade to the shooter.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:04 AM
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I'm not a BE shooter but I love my Baer (it's not even a 1.5")

a triggerjob ,@ 1360 grams (I live in Belgium) and a short (sti) trigger to match my short fingers is all I did.

I think a bear witch the 1.5" guarantee, an ultradot mounted on the slide is a good way to go.

best way is a full custom but there is a price to pay...

I shoot a Buckmark, on ISSF 25m target I shoot +/- 92/100 with iron sights, but it is more difficult than with a Hammerli or Feinwerkbau. there triggers, grips, sights are much better

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Old 07-27-2011, 10:54 AM
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I shoot a Buckmark, on ISSF 25m target I shoot +/- 92/100 with iron sights, but it is more difficult than with a Hammerli or Feinwerkbau. there triggers, grips, sights are much better

gr T
I'm a bullseye shooter and interested in trying ISSF type shooting. European target pistols are very nice and accurate, but cost $2,000-$3000 +++ for one. Are the newer Hammerli x-ese pistols any good?
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:59 PM
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I think you can put the x-ess in the same class as the buckmark

I think the S&W mod 41 is a better pistol if you don 't want a real "Match pistol"

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Old 07-28-2011, 05:49 PM
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The most Bullseye accurate gun I have ever seen or fired was a Travis Strahan Accu-Lock gun with the cam locking surfaces. From a Ransom rest, with ammo it liked, it was shooting ten-shot, sub two-inch groups at fifty yards. I could not do anywhere near as well with many of my groups larger than eight inches. Definitely need an upgrade to the shooter.
farscott

I have one of his with Accu-Lock, Its my favorite baby
They will do 1 inch at 50, but be prepared to pay for them as they are not cheap

It oushoots my Baer PII 1.5

Is it the best? well I dont know, but its the most accurate that I own and have ever shot
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Old 07-28-2011, 07:32 PM
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I think a bear witch the 1.5" guarantee, an ultradot mounted on the slide is a good way to go.
This is what I did, except have a frame mount. You should check around on the bullseye mailing list and post a WTB ad; you will get a lot of good guns in response.

If you want to go off the beaten path, check out the Pardini Gt45.
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Old 07-29-2011, 03:52 PM
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I think you'll be hard pressed to find a better bullseye pistol than the MCP wad guns.

www.mountaincompetitionpistols.com

Not sure what Hemphill shot this year at Perry, but Zins won with one the 3 previous years.

Dr. Abrashamian's work is impeccable, and he's as nice a guy as you'll ever talk to.
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Old 07-29-2011, 10:00 PM
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Jerry Keefer, one of the best Bullseye 'smiths in the business, is a member here.
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:52 PM
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I'm a bullseye shooter and interested in trying ISSF type shooting. European target pistols are very nice and accurate, but cost $2,000-$3000 +++ for one. Are the newer Hammerli x-ese pistols any good?
Yes, with a trigger from Larry's Guns in Maine.
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