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Old 04-30-2020, 12:48 AM
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Nephew in his early 30s had it, just like a bad flu. Father of my sons classmate in HS died (very obese).
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Old 04-30-2020, 01:20 AM
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There's been a lot of strokes happening to Covid patients. Strokes are usually associated with prior cardiovascular symptoms.

But they are happening to Covid 19 patients with no prior history. Scary stuff.
That's what happened to my sister-in-law's brother. He was found on his living room floor, along with a "To Do" list that had "Get tested" as item #1. I conclude that he had symptoms and had no clue he could be struck dead so quickly.
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Old 04-30-2020, 05:23 AM
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Yes, personally! Good friends (mother/daughter)
The mother was in a nursing home and an employee tested positive 1st week in April. The mother, a day or two later, began to exhibit symptoms(cough, aches, fever) was tested and came back positive.
Due to her advanced age(tho previously good health) she diminished rapidly and died due to pulmonary complications the 25th of April.

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Old 04-30-2020, 08:24 AM
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two people, both at work, one passed, not otherwise ill, in his mid 50s. another appears to be recovering. I work at a govt agency that has remained open, though we have modified schedules to minimize personnel on site at once.
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Old 04-30-2020, 03:57 PM
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No, don’t know anyone who has had it. Don’t know anyone who has known of anyone to have had it either. But I do personally know of about 20 immediate family members who had the seasonal flu last fall. And my 83 yo neighbor died last summer, of a heart attack
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Old 04-30-2020, 05:37 PM
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Not Sure What You're asking Rumblur

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Do you personally know anyone with C19? First hand, a real person you know and they know you. No 2nd cousins, a guy at work knows a guy, etc.

if you do, what is their status? What was their health condition before c19? And what is their prognosis after being diagnosed with it?

There's 186K members here. That's a decent cross section of society, I'd say. I myself do not know anyone with it, and no one I know knows anyone first hand. There are reports of "someone in my company" having had it, even deaths, but no "Jane Doe who I have known for 20 years has it, was in the hospital 2 weeks, came out/died" stories.

Thank you for playing along with my very unscientific experiment here.
Thankfully I live in an an area that hasn't been severely impacted, so no, I don't know of anyone personally. But I hope you aren't trying to imply that this is something that's just made up. That's just wrong man. People are dying, 55K + in the US alone so far. I hope everyone will take the recommendations seriously. Stay at home as much as you can. If you have to go out wear a mask and keep your distance. This isn't something our guns can save us from.
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Old 04-30-2020, 06:59 PM
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At the VA today had one exray room for c19 people.
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Old 04-30-2020, 07:00 PM
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One of my Fraternity Brothers from College.

He was three years older then me.

He died on 4/17.

He went very quickly.
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Old 04-30-2020, 07:35 PM
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Do you personally know anyone with C19? First hand, a real person you know and they know you. No 2nd cousins, a guy at work knows a guy, etc.

if you do, what is their status? What was their health condition before c19? And what is their prognosis after being diagnosed with it?

There's 186K members here. That's a decent cross section of society, I'd say. I myself do not know anyone with it, and no one I know knows anyone first hand. There are reports of "someone in my company" having had it, even deaths, but no "Jane Doe who I have known for 20 years has it, was in the hospital 2 weeks, came out/died" stories.

Thank you for playing along with my very unscientific experiment here.
I know my G/F partner's trainer, He was recently released from a 4 day hospital stay . He was a super healthy fitness trainer. So glad he made it. He was always super fit and healthy. Former Dallas Cowboy's QB. Looking good this morning.
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Old 04-30-2020, 07:52 PM
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Ugh! Just lost another. Our friend Moi's brother. 54 years old, like me. We didn't even know he was sick. A few weeks ago he texted us some food pics.

Now he's gone.
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Old 04-30-2020, 08:21 PM
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There's 186K members here. That's a decent cross section of society, I'd say.

Thank you for playing along with my very unscientific experiment here.
Well you are right, a very unscientific experiment. Look, this is not a cross section of Americans. This is a very small group composed of primarily white, male, republicans. There are very few people of color, females, and democrats on this forum in relation to the overall American population.

But that's not what I wanted to talk about. What I really wanted to talk about are my own experiences as related to the question at hand. I am a first responder. I am out there almost everyday due to staffing shortages. I personally know of four people that I work with that have tested positive. African-American male age 23, height weight proportional former wrestler in high school. He most likely contracted it from his live in GF who also tested positive before he did. A 61 year old white woman, not in the best of health. 45 year old white male also hwp. No health issues. 52 year old white male also hwp. All have recovered. Only the older female was on a ventilator.
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Old 04-30-2020, 08:25 PM
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I'm glad that this question was posted. A lot of interesting replies. Stay safe out there.
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Old 04-30-2020, 09:13 PM
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So far more Americans have died of Covid 19 than died while serving in Vietnam.

A heavy toll being taken in the old folks homes in a scandalous and shameful manner.

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Old 04-30-2020, 10:20 PM
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Yes. A family friend and shooting buddy. He died April 1.
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Old 04-30-2020, 10:38 PM
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3 of my coworkers have tested positive, and two kiddos (patients) at the hospital are currently positive.

Its a novel virus, so we'll ALL get it eventually.
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Old 04-30-2020, 10:40 PM
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So far more Americans have died of Covid 19 than died while serving in Vietnam.

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Im gonna call BS on that, bro. The virus isn't a hoax...but the reported numbers are.
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Old 04-30-2020, 10:45 PM
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Im gonna call BS on that, bro. The virus isn't a hoax...but the reported numbers are.
Have to agree. A death in a hospital from flu or pneumonia is just a statistic. A COVID "related " death pays....
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Old 04-30-2020, 10:46 PM
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Yes, I’m in NJ. My brothers 2 in-laws, husband and wife recovered from it. Heard of a former co-worker who died.
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Old 05-04-2020, 12:11 PM
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Father-in-law died of C-19. C-19 was confirmed by lab. He felt sick on Tuesday evening April 14th and died Friday morning April 17th. He was 93, doing well for his age, and lived in a nursing home. Nursing home was a good one. Family members were all happy with how he was doing there. Disease is a real threat, especially for older folks.
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:56 PM
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I work in a very large ER. I know staff members and patients who have/had it. Bottom line: young or healthy you generally are not symptomatic. If you become symptomatic it can become a serious issue. There are some factors that make certain people more vulnerable to the virus: obesity, geriatrics, underlying health conditions such as diabetes, respiratory, cardiac illness, or immune compromised patients (cancer). The virus preys on these vulnerable people. It also seems to escalate very quickly, going from symptomatic to life threatening in less than 24 hours. Another thing: patients are testing positive more than once, so it’s not a “one and done” illness like chicken pox. You can get it over and over. The virus is real, it’s effects are serious for a small percentage of the population. Research must be given time to craft effective treatment therapies and a vaccine. It will become a part of life like other recent contagions. How the federal and various state governments deal with it, that’s the bigger issue unfortunately.
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Old 05-04-2020, 02:14 PM
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Im gonna call BS on that, bro. The virus isn't a hoax...but the reported numbers are.
Well I'll agree that without reliable testing it is hard to have an exact figure. Especially as the fight over this is politicized. How many have died from regular flu vs. Covid is unknown. But it's just as likely that the deaths are higher than that they are lower due to the lack of widespread testing.

There is a difference between a hoax and unreliable figures. To call it a hoax means that the figures are being deliberately manipulated. The White House has not been claiming that. It claimed over the weekend that they expect to get to possibly over 100,000 deaths possibly by June.

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But even Trump has acknowledged that the death toll from the virus may be more grim than he personally estimated. He previously predicted the number of deaths would come in around 60,000 people, but on Sunday night revised it upward.

"It’s going up," Trump acknowledged. "I used to say 65,000. Now I’m saying 80 or 90, and it goes up and it goes up rapidly. But it’s still going to be, no matter how you look at it, at the lower end of the plane if we did the shutdown."

Deborah Birx, coordinator of the White House coronavirus response, said on "Fox News Sunday" that their projections have always estimated between 100,000 and 240,000 people could die even with mitigation measures in place.
https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...deaths-by-june

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Old 05-04-2020, 02:32 PM
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Well I'll agree that without reliable testing it is hard to have an exact figure. Especially as the fight over this is politicized. But it's just as likely that the deaths are higher than that they are lower due to the lack of widespread testing.

There is a difference between a hoax and unreliable figures. To call it a hoax means that the figures are being deliberately manipulated.
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I don't agree with the highlighted portion. Its NOT just as likely. The reason is simple- money. COVID19 cases/deaths is a revenue stream for Federal dollars. There's a financial incentive to report anything remotely respiratory related as COVID19.

The virus isn't a hoax. Its a reality. Its severity and risk, as being reported, IS a hoax. CDC knows how to modle infectious disease. They know how to produce realistic representation of spread and severity.
However, to do so now does not serve the overlying objective- to get people to comply, as part of a containment strategy.

The more the "sky is falling ", the more docile the population
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Old 05-04-2020, 04:15 PM
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A lot of surmising in there. At this point anyway. There is a good deal of cheating, profiteering and price gouging going on and that is fairly widespread. What I know of involves hospitals, states or the feds being cheated or set into bidding against each other for hospital supplies and PPE. Oh and tests that don't work.

But what you seem to be pointing to is fraud by local and state health depts. to proved a false upward count of how many cases they have in their areas in order to get more money from the Feds. Do you have any links to reports on that and/or arrests related to that? It would have to be widespread to actually make a dent in the count.

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Old 05-04-2020, 05:26 PM
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Medicare pays +20% with a COVID19 diagnosis. They are also covering treating uninsured COVID19 patients....
So a patient comes in with flu- get paid X. Call it COVID19, get X+20%....
Are such things happening? Absolutely. Particularly with the redaction of non emergency or routine treatment, revenues are down. Like it or not, heath care is a business, and the bottom line matters. Medical billing, by and large, is an exercise in squeezing every possible penny from the billpayer, be it government or private.
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Old 05-04-2020, 05:44 PM
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Another thing: patients are testing positive more than once, so it’s not a “one and done” illness like chicken pox. You can get it over and over.
If you can get it over and over, billions of dollars are being wasted developing non-functional covid-19 vaccines...

Here is the reason why some people test positive after testing negative for covid-19:

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200429000724

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"As of Sunday, 263 people in Korea tested positive for the disease again after being declared virus-free, of which 17 were minors or teens, the National Medical Center said.

“The respiratory epithelial cell has a half-life of up to three months, and RNA virus in the cell can be detected with PCR testing one to two months after the elimination of the cell,” Oh said.

The committee’s findings confirmed an earlier assessment from the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that repeat patients appear to have little or no contagiousness. The KCDC cited results of virus culture tests that all failed to find live virus in recovered patients."
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