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Old 11-22-2019, 11:54 PM
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I bought this 1911 for $400 recently with a Sears made 1942 m1916 holster with belt. I found out through the forums and taking off the grip panels that the frame is aluminum and was made by A.R sales.
I knew when buying that the frame was not original and was most likely a commercial frame. It has an Ithaca made slide and a S&W made barrel. The magazine has been rubbed with a scotch brite pad by the previous owner but I do not see any markings whatsoever.
I am new to the 1911 and would love to learn more about them especially this one. Can anyone tell me more about this handgun? Did I overpay? Thanks ahead of time for everyone’s feedback.
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:44 AM
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WYSIWYG.
You have a conglomeration of surplus parts on an aftermarket frame. I don't know any arcane lore beyond that.
I think you paid a top price for it.
Does it shoot OK? Mine did.
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Old 11-23-2019, 10:27 AM
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WYSIWYG.
You have a conglomeration of surplus parts on an aftermarket frame. I don't know any arcane lore beyond that.
I think you paid a top price for it.
Does it shoot OK? Mine did.
I have not shot it yet because deer season is still going on and I have not walked down to the range yet. I also would like to clean it first. The gun seemed to be taken care and shot a decent amount. The barrel is very clean and very shiny though so as long as I can do my part I expect it to do ok if not better
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Old 11-23-2019, 06:01 PM
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AR Sales sold a lot of these inexpensive cast 1911 frames back in the 1980s. I believe Federal Ordnance also built some complete pistols using them. At the time GI surplus 1911 slides and parts were readily available at gun shows and in the pages of Shotgun News, and a lot of folks built their own 1911s much the same way people are doing so with ARs today. The value of something like this wouldn't be very high, but if it runs 100% then the price is fair. Being an aluminum frame be sure to only use mags with anti-tilt followers that wont dip down and gouge the feed ramp.
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Old 11-24-2019, 11:13 AM
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AR Sales sold a lot of these inexpensive cast 1911 frames back in the 1980s. I believe Federal Ordnance also built some complete pistols using them. At the time GI surplus 1911 slides and parts were readily available at gun shows and in the pages of Shotgun News, and a lot of folks built their own 1911s much the same way people are doing so with ARs today. The value of something like this wouldn't be very high, but if it runs 100% then the price is fair. Being an aluminum frame be sure to only use mags with anti-tilt followers that wont dip down and gouge the feed ramp.


Ok Iíll make sure buy some quality mags then. Any advice on where to get a GI frame?


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Old 11-24-2019, 12:12 PM
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Stripped genuine GI frames are like hens teeth nowadays, and when you do find one expect to pay $700 or more for it. If your current frame fails or you want to replace it your best bet is a GI-spec frame from Caspian or Fusion.
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Old 11-24-2019, 12:57 PM
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Stripped genuine GI frames are like hens teeth nowadays, and when you do find one expect to pay $700 or more for it. If your current frame fails or you want to replace it your best bet is a GI-spec frame from Caspian or Fusion.


Ok thanks I didnít even know where to look for a frame. Iím gonna go shoot it sometime today. Weíll see how it goes


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Old 11-24-2019, 01:20 PM
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Stripped genuine GI frames are like hens teeth nowadays, and when you do find one expect to pay $700 or more for it. If your current frame fails or you want to replace it your best bet is a GI-spec frame from Caspian or Fusion.


Do you know how to figure out who made the other parts such as the slide stop and safety? And what types they are? I see people saying some of their parts are type 2 Remington-Rand or something like that and Iíd to know what I have. Thanks for your help so far


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