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Old 07-10-2019, 07:08 PM
Acopp07 Acopp07 is offline
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Valkyrie Dynamics Muzzle Break OPINIONS

I got this combo pack on it's way from Valkyrie Dynamics. Muzzle Break Predator with some machined grips plus some other goodies.

Anyone ever use thier products before ?
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Old 07-10-2019, 07:27 PM
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Looks like another bushing comp. They look cool almost totally ineffective.
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Old 07-10-2019, 07:37 PM
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It's a bushing comp, doesn't do much at all. I believe there was an article where some competitors used a ransom rest and high speed camera to catalogue the free recoil of a bunch of guns/ammo/comps and the bushing only did like a 10% reduction in rise vs the typical 60-80% for a 1911 comp.
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Old 07-10-2019, 08:07 PM
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Here is a bit to chew on...

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/as...a-flash-hider/

A compensator directs the hot gases up and out to the sides. This reduces muzzle flip. It does not effect recoil.

A muzzle break is designed to reduce actual recoil by directing the hot propellant gases by redirecting them before they leave the muzzle thus reducing recoil.

There are also some combos out there.

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Old 07-10-2019, 08:37 PM
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It's a "brake" - not a "break". A true compensator has one or more expansion chambers in it to get more gas flow out of the ports. Bushing "comps" are like a rear wing spoiler on a Honda Civic.. Better to spend your money on ammo.

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Old 07-10-2019, 09:31 PM
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It's a "brake" - not a "break".
Complain to spell cheque.

I agree with drail on the $29. "bushing comps", not that useful in what I've seen.

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Old 07-10-2019, 10:29 PM
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Here is a bit to chew on...

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/as...a-flash-hider/

A compensator directs the hot gases up and out to the sides. This reduces muzzle flip. It does not effect recoil.

A muzzle break is designed to reduce actual recoil by directing the hot propellant gases by redirecting them before they leave the muzzle thus reducing recoil.

There are also some combos out there.

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Wrong.....a comp has a flat baffle that interacts with the firing gases as the primary form of recoil reduction. The redirection is secondary to this. Filp is mainly cut by reduction of slide energy and superior weighting, you need serious gas volume and at least 4 ports optimized for the gas volume to reduce it via redirection.

A rifle is totally different, my "brake" is far far far more effective then a so called comp since a comp as the article says is nothing more than ineffective porting outside the barrel. A muzzle brake on a rifle is more similar to what is happening in a pistol comp, the expansion chambers and flat baffles are there to let the gas interact with the part and pull it forward to mechanically cancel out recoil energy. Porting or "jets" in the first otherwised closed chamber of a rifle muzzle device will indeed throw the muzzle downward but will not reduce felt recoil at all, far less effective then something like the Saker triple brake. Even though this brake doesn't have any upward venting it's able to "somehow" cancel out half the recoil force and actually keep a rifle muzzle far more flat than say......the near useless comp that Daniel Defense puts on their 3-gun models. Those stupid things only have one crappy designed baffle that doesn't cut much recoil at all and the jets make the gun recoil downward instead of staying perfectly neutral.

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Old 07-11-2019, 08:07 AM
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I have one of the bushing comps. It provides some extra weight to the muzzle that I like the feel of. But it doesn't *do* anything other than that.

The main configuration for the gun I use it on is a 5" slide, 6" barrel, and the Valkyrie comp. The barrel is ported to match the slots in the comp.

You can see some gas come out of the top of the comp when firing, but it doesn't make any difference to the feel of the gun as far as recoil or flip. I've tested ported and unported barrels, and let several other people shoot it while swapping bits around.

note: I have not tested just sticking it on the end of a 5" gun.

As I said, I like the feel of it; it's sort of a ghetto longslide. I inspect the lug on the comp and the groove in the front of the slide after every shooting session. Everything looks fine so far, but I'm a bit paranoid about the little lug holding a sizeable chunk of metal as the slide bangs back and forth.

The "French cut" on the comp doesn't quite match my slide. I found out that the slide cuts vary a lot, even on real Colt guns, from an article on the old Clark welded longslides. I guess it's close enough, then.

After deciding I liked the feel of the faux longslide, I built a 6" gun. And then for grins I stuck the comp on that. And now I have a hankering for a 7" slide. Yep, it looked silly. But it sure pointed nicely...
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Old 08-05-2019, 04:12 PM
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To the OP-for some different opinions than some stated here on the Valkyrie comp(s) and some general info on them, check out the discussion listed below that we had here about them a few years back (particularly interesting is the post by "busdriver" relating his experience with them and how different loads affect their performance):https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=483514
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