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Old 03-29-2020, 03:28 PM
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WC X-Tac Compact Carry Comp Failure to extract

Just got over the "regular" flu so this range trip was a couple weeks ago. As I mentioned in another thread, this is a new to me X-Tac Compact Carry Comp. The first go around was a pistol skill course and no failures to extract using Federal Syntech 124gr. This range trip I was dialing in a new front sight that I installed. Using Blazer Brass 124 gr. first box or two was great, no problems, then the third box I was getting a failure to extract every couple of rounds. I marked the magazines and it was a problem across 5 different magazines. I checked the extractor and not broken. I bought a box of Remington range ammo 115gr. That box shot fine. Tried a box of Federal Syntech no problem. Tried a different box of my Blazer Brass and that box also started to FTE. Hmm... I checked the batch numbers on the Blazer Brass and found the two boxes giving me trouble were different from the rest of the batch I had with me. I buy ammo by the case and had 350 rounds with me from the same case of Blazer at home. Tried the rest of the batch and it shot fine. So ammo issue right?

A shout out here for my WC EDC X9 by the way. I tried those two boxes of troubled ammo and the X9 never skipped a beat!

Afterwards I stripped the X-Tac down and did a really good cleaning including pulling the extractor and cleaning the extractor channel. The channel and extractor were dirty but not enough to bind. I reinstalled the extractor and noticed there wasn't much initial tension on the extractor tip. It felt like I could move the extractor tip back a few thousands before any tension. This is only my 2nd 1911 with an internal extractor. I have no experience with tuning a 9mm extractor. I was going to go to the range this weekend and try some more ammo but decided to isolate. How do I check the extractor? Are there easy instructions for tuning an extractor or is it best to send it back to Wilson for a check up?
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Old 03-29-2020, 03:50 PM
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Brownells has a jig but I would just go to Youtube. They have a few excellent presentation on how to. Its not hard at all. I have found that the 9mm needs a lot more tension compared to the 45acp. You can use the extractor channel to bend it.

Just checked WC has a video and I tried to copy it over here for you but no luck - its the operator on this end.

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Old 03-29-2020, 05:42 PM
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It's very easy, take the slide off and remove the barrel and extractor and put it half way in its hole to bend it for more or less tension. You want it to be able to hold an empty case when you violently shake the slide in all directions or a loaded round for about three shakes. Any more than needed and you can have issues with feeding if the recoil spring can't force the gun closed/into full battery.

You will have an interesting time with a 9mm since the springs can't be too strong to begin with so you won't be able to just set it really high and allow a strong spring to be able to push feed it home since the comp will drain so much power from the cycle the gun may not eject at all. If in doubt send it back, though this is very simple and quick to do yourself.

The X9 generally has less tension than I would like but it also uses the mag to help eject like a modern pistol does. Not the same system at all
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Old 03-29-2020, 06:27 PM
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Old 03-31-2020, 10:44 PM
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... If in doubt send it back, though this is very simple and quick to do yourself.

The X9 generally has less tension than I would like but it also uses the mag to help eject like a modern pistol does. Not the same system at all
Excellent advice.

Separate from this, I think it's worthwhile to order an extra fitted extractor for every Wilson pistol having an internal extractor. In the example presented (OP) it could be helpful to swap extractors such that the "other" might serve as a benchmark.
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Old 04-01-2020, 04:45 AM
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It is very easy to do, even I can do it :-)...I did my first one a few months ago on my Infinity (I sent it to them for failures - stove pipes) and they never did it, just kept accusing me of limp wrist even after I explained I have a dozen other semi-autos with no problem. Great Guns, terrible Customer Service.

I used one of my Wilson as a model to tune to. So I had two slides off when I did it, one WC one Infinity...I'd give it a try before sending it back, it really is very easy, especially if you have a known-good-gun/extractor to use as an example of how it should feel.

BTW, both guns are 38Super in this case.

Some links:

From Bill himself:
https://www.m1911.org/technic2.htm

Others:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...9B4D&FORM=VIRE

Another from Wilson Combat:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...8805&FORM=VIRE
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Old 04-01-2020, 11:58 AM
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Thank you everyone for the helpful hints and videos. I really appreciate the vast knowledge here! I honestly thought that tuning would be more like rocket science or an art. I'll start with the your recommendations of shaking the round and see how it goes from there with some minor adjustments.

I have a reservation at my range this weekend. I'll make some adjustments and shoot some rounds. (Not too many though. Don't want to burn through too much ammo until the supply catches up again)
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Old 04-01-2020, 01:17 PM
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Wilson Combat video on Youtube for extract tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOSmJd7HaDY
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