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Old 05-24-2010, 04:30 PM
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Battle of Belleau Woods commemorative

Found an interesting piece at the Ohio Gun Collectors Association show over the weekend. A 1967 production World War I Commemorative for the battle of Belleau Woods. I got what I consider a very good deal and I note these seem to be under appreciated by collectors. It is puzzling as it is after all a pre 70s series gun and Colt went to great trouble making it just like a WWI gun with no scallops around the frame at the trigger, long trigger, small ejection port and flat main spring housing. Beautiful gun.

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Old 05-24-2010, 04:32 PM
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Great looking gun.
Ya goin to shoot it?
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:41 PM
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i vote shoot it.
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:47 PM
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I have one without the case, so I Been fireing it alot. it shoots great,
SN 460X BW, back went Colt made great pistol's at a good price, not like now, high price and poor fitting, don't get be wrong, I will allways LOVE my COLT'S
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:56 PM
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Can I shoot it?

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Old 05-24-2010, 06:07 PM
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I scored a couple of Chateau-Thierrys last year. Here's one of them:


Jim Garthwaite put one of his Garthwaite Gold Bead front sights and a retro Colt rear sight on it. I'm going to enjoy carrying it .

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Old 05-24-2010, 06:27 PM
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Great Lookig Gun Display, I hope you have it some where that No-One can look in the window and see it......... I agree don't shoot it............


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Old 05-24-2010, 07:19 PM
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A 1967 production World War I Commemorative for the battle of Belleau Woods.
You need to first determine if it is standard, deluxe, or special deluxe.
If it is standard, go ahead and shoot it. Deluxe or special deluxe, better
admire it in the box.

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Old 05-24-2010, 08:28 PM
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I've seen a lot of these '67-vintage WW1 commemoratives for sale over the past few years, meaning either they're not particularly rare or else a lot of folks began offloading theirs once the O1911 and O1918 replicas came out. Whatever the case, they're not particularly valuable either, selling for roughly the same prices as current Colt 1991 Series 80 pistols. They aren't even worth as much as a plain-jane Government Model from the same year in equal condition. They just weren't everyone's cup of tea, I guess.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:12 PM
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You need to first determine if it is standard, deluxe, or special deluxe.
If it is standard, go ahead and shoot it. Deluxe or special deluxe, better
admire it in the box.

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Joe,

Would you mine educating someone who doesn't know - what the differences are (Standard, Deluxe, Special Deluxe) and how you can determine one from the other?

Much obliged,

James

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Old 05-24-2010, 09:31 PM
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You can read about it here:

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=261683

Value of Special Deluxe is 3.5X that of standard.

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Old 05-24-2010, 09:37 PM
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My reference implies that the "engraving" on the Standard model was rolled on, while that on the Custom and Delux was hand-engraved.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:17 PM
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Shush. Its a big secret that these guns made 1967 to 1970 about 11,500 of each edition (4) are among the best ever made by Colt. Take one apart and you will find that the fit and finnish are near perfect. There is no plastic and not a single MIM part. Now the best part; the frame and slide are both serialized (look under the left rear slide rail for the number which will match the frame) If you want more look at the WWll sets for pure perfection (if you can get past the brightwork)
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:44 PM
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Thanks everyone for the good information, the link Joe, etc.
It's interesting to learn about things.
Is there any one place where there is a complete/concise list of these 1911 WWI and WWII commemoratives?

Thanks,

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Old 05-25-2010, 05:57 AM
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Thanks everyone for the good information, the link Joe, etc.
It's interesting to learn about things.
Is there any one place where there is a complete/concise list of these 1911 WWI and WWII commemoratives?

Thanks,

James
I have the Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms. It lists several pages of
Colt commemoratives, but I have no way of knowing if their list is
complete.

The book is copyright 2007, so suggested prices are getting out of date.
The book is a very interesting read, as is the Standard Catalog of Smith
& Wesson Firearms. There's one out for Browning now, which I will
probably buy.

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Old 05-25-2010, 06:25 AM
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One should bear in mind.

These Colt commemoratives are about like Winchester Commemoratives when it comes to value. That is, they are generally less valuble than the equivalent general production models of the issue period. They just made too many of them.

My two cents.
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:09 AM
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Yeah I am a member of a number of various gun boards. Some I seem to hit more often than others. I should spend more time here as I do love my 1911s and I do have a passion for my Colts.



This one being stone mint won't get shot and I do have a Meuse Arrgonne without the box that I have shot. But I have plenty of others to shoot, so I preserve the nice ones. I do have some uncommon Colts.

This one is the Gold Cup Commander Custom Edition. Believe it or not I got it from a friend of my father who was actually using it as a carry gun. Three digit serial number at that. Safe queen now...




This one I got from a friend at my gun club who was also carrying the gun.
In this case the Combat Target Stainless, only made in 1997... I saw him shooting it at the club and bought it shortly thereafter.



Here is a special edition 1991A1 that was done in a batch for Lew Horton.

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Old 05-25-2010, 11:52 PM
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I scored a couple of Chateau-Thierrys last year. Here's one of them:


Jim Garthwaite put one of his Garthwaite Gold Bead front sights and a retro Colt rear sight on it. I'm going to enjoy carrying it .

Regards,

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Now, THAT is a beautiful gun! What are those grips? Olive wood?
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Old 05-27-2010, 01:13 PM
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Meusse Argonne

Picked one up new few years back for 650. no box but I shoot it. I have been looking for a few more. I have steered a few friends over to these in leu of the new colts. More bang for the buck so to speak.
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Old 05-27-2010, 02:51 PM
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Sure wish I could find one at a decent price. Every one I find is WAY overpriced.
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Old 05-27-2010, 10:49 PM
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There was a whole series of these. I remember the adds in the American Rifleman back when. I have seen several for sale over the years and agree they often don't sell for that much. Sort of like a lot a Talo guns. Folks either love them or hate them and I guess not that many love them.
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