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Old 05-28-2020, 05:27 AM
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Vigil or A2

I know I know everyone has their own opinion but I have never actually seen either one of these models so I'm just trying to get a few opinions from those that might have both or have had them. I really like the older style of the A2 but something is pulling me towards the Vigil. I'd rather have the full sized government model in 45acp but would really be happy with the commander in either gun as long as it's a 45. Any opinions or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-28-2020, 07:37 AM
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The big difference is that the A2 is steel framed as opposed to the Vigil's aluminum frame. I have a Vigil CCO in .45 and love it.
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Old 05-28-2020, 08:07 AM
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I have used a friend's 1911 with the rear site and front site just like the Vigils and really like it. I have done a little research on both of these but I really can't find a straight up review from someone that has both
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Old 05-28-2020, 01:08 PM
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Can't speak on the A2 but I love my Vigil.

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Old 05-28-2020, 01:30 PM
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dph, I'm leaning in that direction, I'm just having a difficult time finding them in stores in my area. Don't know anyone that has one I can try out and I don't want to buy something off a website that I haven't even looked at in person.
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Old 05-28-2020, 04:59 PM
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I generally prefer steel framed guns for .45, so I'd opt for the A2. If it was primarily for carry, I'd opt for a Vigil commander.
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Old 05-28-2020, 05:07 PM
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It's not going to be for carry. This will be replacing a Kimber Custom II I just sold so basically it would be for fun and home defense. I do love the feel of a steel 45 1911. Currently I have a Guardian for carry.
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Old 05-28-2020, 05:09 PM
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Oh yeah I am from Michigan as well, nice to see this place filling up with more and more Michiganders
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Old 05-28-2020, 05:10 PM
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Absolutely love my A2, looks cool, low key with beautiful finish, even the grips are very noice looking and very very accurate, more accurate than some guns I own that cost 3x as much. The arched mainspring housing seems to aid me shooting it really well too.

I do not buy aluminum frame guns especially not in 45. Then I rather go for the Pointman carry, not that much heavier and sweet, I am really thinking about one.
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Old 05-28-2020, 06:11 PM
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Wouldn't the ramped barrel of the Vigil help in anyway with a full-sized Vigil?
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Old 05-29-2020, 12:05 PM
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Both guns are great, nothing wrong with either one. Or any of them really. All are built to the same specs and use the same components. The only differences are features, finishes and materials. It is really about what you want to use it for and what you like. I guarantee you won't buy just one so pick the one that calls to you the most and go for it. The A2 will have less felt recoil if that is something you are concerned with.
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Old 05-30-2020, 12:30 PM
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If not for carry the heavier carbon steel A2 would be better IMO for range shooting. I have the A2 goverment and also the Commander, both are terrific pistols and accurate shooting. DW answered the bell by making the A2 for all those who love the old Colt government models but in a newer, well made pistol having better sites for older eyes. In the Vigil offering, the 9mm sort of looks interesting to me for its lighter weight and reduced recoil. Whatever DW touches your fancy get one! they are all nicely made and good looking!
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Old 06-12-2020, 10:04 AM
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Just picked up a new parked A2 01844. I really like the GI style with the improved sights etc.
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Old 06-13-2020, 08:03 PM
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all i can say is the Vigil is awesome. So good i bought both the 45 and 9mm.
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Old 06-13-2020, 08:33 PM
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Well I went for the Vigil in 45acp. I absolutely love this firearm. Had some minor problems with WC and my Sig mags at first. Keith DW guided me in the right direction. The Sig mags are the only ones that don't allow it to lock back when firing the last round. They have a slightly different follower than the DW mags and of course the WC mags which in my opinion make them slightly smaller and skips by the slide lock when under full strength of firing. Not a big deal at all for me personally. I'll just get a couple more mags to use and keep the Sig mags to use with my Sig. I love the blacked out rear site which allows my older eyes to pick up a very nice site picture which three dot sites don't. Just over 300 rounds through it as of yesterday and will probably add a couple hundred more tomorrow. As I said earlier I love it and will add that I will be adding a third one soon. That will more likely than not be the A2.
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Old 06-13-2020, 09:04 PM
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Great choice! We have two Vigils (Government and Commander) in 45acp. Both are great shooters and easy to carry. Enjoy!
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Old 06-13-2020, 09:48 PM
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Thank you tigerman, I have the Guardian in 9 mm, now the Vigil in 45acp, I think the A2 would go very nicely. Would make for a great family picture. 🤗
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Old 06-14-2020, 07:16 AM
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the DW Vigil in a Milt Sparks 60tk is my current favorite 1911/holster...such a fantastic gun
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Old 06-14-2020, 04:01 PM
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Thank you tigerman, I have the Guardian in 9 mm, now the Vigil in 45acp, I think the A2 would go very nicely. Would make for a great family picture. 🤗
We have a Guardian in .38 Super. Love it! It's my Summer goto EDC.
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:08 PM
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DW Vigil Ramped Barrel?

I am looking at a FS Vigil and was wondering if it has a ramped barrel or the standard 1911 style? I called DW, but they are closed and send them an email but have not heard back.
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:30 PM
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I am looking at a FS Vigil and was wondering if it has a ramped barrel or the standard 1911 style? I called DW, but they are closed and send them an email but have not heard back.
Ramped barrel.

Here's a review of the Vigil in .45 ACP.

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editor...il-1911/328371
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Old 06-23-2020, 06:15 PM
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The big difference is that the A2 is steel framed as opposed to the Vigil's aluminum frame. I have a Vigil CCO in .45 and love it.

That, and the front strap of the Vigil is checkered while the A2 is not. I have the Vigil Commander in 9mm and would like to get a blued A2.
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Old 06-23-2020, 06:45 PM
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It's not going to be for carry. This will be replacing a Kimber Custom II I just sold so basically it would be for fun and home defense. I do love the feel of a steel 45 1911. Currently I have a Guardian for carry.
Either one will be more fun than the gun it replaced, I assure you.

Trigger, accuracy, fit & finish.

My preference is typically for steel frames, however the frontstrap checkering on the Vigil will aid & control recoil even though it is anodized alloy frame.

I have the cco-sized Valkyrie in .45 and it surprised me with it's very controllable handling. I would imagine the Vigil in commander or 5" would be much easier to run.

Can't go wrong either way.
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Old 06-23-2020, 06:57 PM
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DubfromGa, 100% accurate. I can't say enough about the Vigil. I absolutely love this pistol. Almost makes me look like a Grand Master lol. ALMOST. This is the only one I have used that has the blacked out rear site. Makes it so much easier to acquire a nice crisp site picture. So much so that I am thinking about putting the same site combination on my Guardian. Now my only delima is, do I add to the family by getting the A2, a Vigil commander in 45, another Guardian but this time also in 45? Oh geez the pain the pain of it all. Lol
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Old 06-24-2020, 07:41 AM
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pics from a recent range trip with the Vigil and S&W e-series
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