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Old 10-31-2011, 10:08 PM
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WWII Repo FTF problem

I took my WWII repo out to the range for the first time and it was not good. I had 6 failure to feeds out of 100 rounds. I cleaned and lubed the pistol before hand and used only 7 round Real Colt magazines. The ammo was Winchester White box ball 230gr FMJ. I used a solid 2 hand grip.

This happened with 2 different 7 round Colt magazines. The mags are new and have never been left loaded. The cases all ejected good and then the last round in the magazine would not fully go into battery. One time the slide locked back and the unfired round was just sitting loose on top of the magazine and not chambered. As far as I remember it was always the last round when it happens.

Any help would be good. Should I call Colt about this? I am not a 1911 expert. I know how to feild strip and clean, but I am no way a gunsmith. I have had other 1911s and this one is by far the most unreliable one of the bunch.
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:42 PM
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To be honest with you, and I understand this is not a Sig forum, but the very first handgun I bought when I was 21 was a Sig. I had the same problem then, didn't matter what mag or mags I used, it invariably jammed on the last round or 2 rounds of the mag. I wish I could tell you what the problem was for me then, but I sold it immediately. I'm not saying that is what you should do, and if you do I would probably take it .

On a serious note, did you check the rounds that failed? I know you mentioned one was sitting on top of the mag just loose. The reason I ask is because yesterday I went to the range for some pumpkin carving fun, had one of my 1911's with me, and had 3 ftf. It also happened to my brother who was using his glock. Turns out the crimp in the ammo wasn't exactly right and a few times it jammed my pistol so bad I got nervous I would not be able to rack the slide back to get it out. I was using wilson combat mags. As I understand it, they are the best on the market. But again, I looked at the rounds and noticed on each one that failed it was a crimp issue.

Good luck with solving though.
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Old 10-31-2011, 11:52 PM
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Did you just have the two magazines that came with the pistol? For awhile I was ash-canning whatever mags came with the pistol, as Colt was using a vendor that used thin-gauge steel tubes and a weak spring. The current ones (made by Checkmate) are pretty good, however. But your WW2 Repro was made around 2001-2002 and the mags may have been from the time they weren't that good.

Otherwise you can call Colt about it and see if they will help you.
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Old 11-01-2011, 03:19 AM
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Last round feed issues are generally caused by either bad magazines or weak magazine springs, or insufficient extractor tension imho.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:13 PM
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Did you just have the two magazines that came with the pistol? For awhile I was ash-canning whatever mags came with the pistol, as Colt was using a vendor that used thin-gauge steel tubes and a weak spring. The current ones (made by Checkmate) are pretty good, however. But your WW2 Repro was made around 2001-2002 and the mags may have been from the time they weren't that good.

Otherwise you can call Colt about it and see if they will help you.
How can you tell good Colt mags from bad ones? The 2 I used were one that came with it and the other was a Colt SS 7 rounder that I got from Midway USA. I did not want to scratch the one that came with it and was still wrapped in the papper and never inserted into the gun. The ftf happened with both mags.

I was thinking of trying Wilson Combat mags and one of there 18.5 lb recoil springs in this gun, but then it will not look USGIish then.

Its kind of said to have to trash new mags, but if they don't work what good are they.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:06 PM
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Put in new springs and followers for less money than replacing them. Fixing mags is not that hard. It is just a matter of figuring out what is wrong. Take a pic of the gun with the mag inserted, one round in the mag, Take the slide off of the gun and put the barrel into position on the frame, with the slide stop in. Then take a pic of the round and the barrel from the side so we can see how the round lines up. Then perhaps we can suggest something. If the gun has been shot, then it is cheap to replace the recoil spring and mag spring. I use the 18.5 variable with a 18 lb hammer spring.

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Old 11-02-2011, 06:43 AM
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Buy a Wilson mag and run it - your problems will most likely disappear. CC
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:53 AM
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Put in new springs and followers for less money than replacing them.
I agree and suggest replacing your mag springs and followers with Virgil Tripp's Super 7 upgrade kit. http://www.trippresearch.com/store/store_1911.html

Upgrading with Tripp's kit tends to solve a lot of feeding problems.
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Old 11-27-2011, 03:43 PM
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WWII Colt Update

Brent from Colt sent me 2 new magazines. I replaced the recoil spring with a Ed Brown stanard weight spring. I also cleaned the extractor and the hole in the slide that it goes in. I just learned how to remove the firing pin and extractor from the slide. There was a bunch of carbon and brass in there. It kind of shocked me at this. Anyway I ran another 100 rounds today and it ran flawless for me. I am one happy Colt customer. I plan on shooting this pistol a bunch.

I want to thank everyone for there input.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:02 PM
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...For awhile I was ash-canning whatever mags came with the pistol, as Colt was using a vendor that used thin-gauge steel tubes and a weak spring. The current ones (made by Checkmate) are pretty good....
I think this is my problem exactly! Last night I was playing with a new looking blued Colt magazine. It was getting harder and harder to remove from the mag well. Finally, I measured the top of the magazine with a micrometer and compared to a Wilson 47D and found it to be about .015" wider. I squeezed it back to size, then fully inserted it (loaded magazine) into the gun about 20 times. Eventually, it became hard to remove. Measuring again, it had gone back to being .015" too wide. I repeated the above sequence again with the exact same results. I suspect DSK is correct, as usual, with the too thin gauge steel tube diagnosis.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:17 PM
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Brent from Colt sent me 2 new magazines. I replaced the recoil spring with a Ed Brown stanard weight spring. I also cleaned the extractor and the hole in the slide that it goes in. I just learned how to remove the firing pin and extractor from the slide. There was a bunch of carbon and brass in there. It kind of shocked me at this. Anyway I ran another 100 rounds today and it ran flawless for me. I am one happy Colt customer. I plan on shooting this pistol a bunch.

I want to thank everyone for there input.
I'm glad you figured out the issue. When the last round won't work it is usually a bad spring. I would get a couple of the Tripp mags for any serious shooting.
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