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Old 12-05-2019, 08:16 PM
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Winchester M70 in 22 Hornet

Picked this one up today. It's a 1951 model. Here's where it gets interesting. A lady brought in 4 Model 70's yesterday. An -06, a 300 Win mag, a 375 H&H and the little Hornet. Turns out her dad owned them.....and he died very young in 1956. So in 1956, her mother wrapped them in blankets and put them in the attic. The mother died a month or so ago and while the daughter was clearing out the house, and the attic, she came across the 4 rifles that have been sitting unmolested in an attic for 63 years! All 4 are in exquisite shape. No rust, no pits and the wood is in 90+% shape. I've been searching for a M70 in 22 Hornet for s decade or so and so this one came home with me!!! Winchester made roughly 20,000 Model 70's in 22 Hornet and you just don't see them that often. This one is wearing an old Weaver K10 that needs a refurbishment.
My 3rd rifle in .22 Hornet, but my first Model 70, and it has a cool story behind it. .
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:04 PM
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Nice rifle! The cool story has at least one hole in it, the .300 Win Mag wasn't introduced until 1963.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:27 PM
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Nice rifle! The cool story has at least one hole in it, the .300 Win Mag wasn't introduced until 1963.
I'll have to double check on the 300. I thought the barrel said that but I'm going to have to take a 2nd look. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:41 PM
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I need a pair of reading glasses I guess.

The 4th gun is in 300 H&H mag....not 300 Win mag. Thanks for the correction LE.
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Old 12-05-2019, 10:58 PM
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I would be jumping all over that .300 H&H magnum.

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I need a pair of reading glasses I guess.

The 4th gun is in 300 H&H mag....not 300 Win mag. Thanks for the correction LE.
I bought the same gun only made in the late seventies. Love the gun and love the round. It took me a while to figure out what that gun liked to shoot.But once I figured out that a Sierra bullet # 2180 220 gn round nose on top of 63 grains of IMR 4831 was the ticket. I have never looked back. I have a Leupold M-8 3x scope on it. And it is my go to gun if anything big here ever needs killing.

Actually It is my go to gun whenever I feel like shooting it which is pretty often.
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Old 12-05-2019, 11:04 PM
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Good looking rifle. Great story. Congrats! The time to buy it is when you see it.
I love shooting my 22-250..

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Old 12-06-2019, 12:03 AM
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I need a pair of reading glasses I guess.

The 4th gun is in 300 H&H mag....not 300 Win mag. Thanks for the correction LE.
The M70 in the 300 & 375 H&H was the first readily available commercial magnums in the U.S., pre-WWII. The parent round was the 375 H&H, introduced in 1912, and arguably one of the most important cartridges ever designed, virtually every belted magnum for 75 years or more was based on the .375. Anything that a 30-06 can do with a 180gr bullet, the .375 H&H will do with the 270gr bullet.
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Old 12-06-2019, 12:52 PM
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Very handsome rifles and a bit unusual.

The long history of .300 and .375 H&H in Model 70 makes me wonder why Winchester brought out their series of SHORT Magnums. They obviously had room for the full length cartridges.
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Old 12-06-2019, 01:12 PM
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This is easy.

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Very handsome rifles and a bit unusual.

The long history of .300 and .375 H&H in Model 70 makes me wonder why Winchester brought out their series of SHORT Magnums. They obviously had room for the full length cartridges.
They just wanted to sell more guns. Come out with a "new and improved" cartridge and roll it out with a lot of hype and there you go. The guys on the ships were jumping all over them when they came out. I am guessing that a lot of them are languishing in closets now.
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Old 12-06-2019, 02:03 PM
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A pre-64 in 300H&H? I would love to have one.

I remember when the DOE demilled a bunch of them in the mid 90s. So sad.
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Old 12-06-2019, 03:43 PM
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Great rifles! Great story about your acquisition of them. Love Pre-64 Winchester Model 70s, especially those chambered in less common calibers.

Thanks for sharing.
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Old 12-06-2019, 04:03 PM
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A pre-64 in 300H&H? I would love to have one.

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That is indeed a classic combination!! Had a chance to get one once, but talked myself out of it.... and yes, I do regret that.

Good move on the Hornet! A pristine pre-'64 Winchester is something you should not pass up.
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Old 12-06-2019, 10:08 PM
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The 375 would have been my pick of those four rifles, if it had the heavy barrel. Should have bought one years ago. I love the 22 Hornet cartridge, and have several Hornets, but I could never get very excited about it in an 8˝# rifle and a full length action. The old Model 70's are iconic, to be sure, but that's not the configuration that beckons to me.
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Old 12-06-2019, 10:33 PM
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The 375 would have been my pick of those four rifles, if it had the heavy barrel. Should have bought one years ago. I love the 22 Hornet cartridge, and have several Hornets, but I could never get very excited about it in an 8˝# rifle and a full length action. The old Model 70's are iconic, to be sure, but that's not the configuration that beckons to me.
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LOL!!! When I first picked it up, I'da swore it weighed 13 lbs.......

It's about the only gun I have that weighs more than a Les Paul Std guitar.
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Old 12-06-2019, 11:26 PM
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LOL!!! When I first picked it up, I'da swore it weighed 13 lbs.......

It's about the only gun I have that weighs more than a Les Paul Std guitar.
They're a heavy rifle, but that was about the norm at that time. When they came out with the Featherweights in 1955, or whenever it was, they were a pretty big deal. I'm not familiar with guitar weights, I did just watch a pretty cool Youtube video with Les Paul and Billy Gibbons, though. Another icon.

(if that 375 is a standard weight barrel, you'll think it's a bit too light )
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