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Old 11-14-2019, 01:47 PM
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A chemical spill, radioactive event, or the wrong storm might change that.

It is good to have options and contingency plans.
But we have weathered all three already with no lasting effects. Knocked over a can of motor oil in the pole barn a couple of weeks ago. A little speedy dri took care of it. As for the radioactive event. I just decided not to make the tacos so spicy going forward. And a bad storm took out part of my road last winter. So I had to spend about half a day on the tractor fixing it.

We have options and we have plans.
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Old 11-14-2019, 05:16 PM
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Defending a fort will get you nothing but dead if enough are after you. Sometimes you have to be mobile and lite. That was why my statement about .22 lr and carrying lots of ammo.
I'm not paranoid enough to believe that a single person is after me, much less a horde ....be they living or the living dead.

Anyone who thinks they can survive long term in the woods.....has clearly never done it.
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Old 11-14-2019, 06:58 PM
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This thread should do well. My pick would be a 14.5 LWRC, M-6 (piston), AR-15 with a 1x6 variable, or an Aimpoint red-dot. 556 ammo is cheap and plentiful, and if a fight is in the cards, a real gun is better than a 22 rimfire.
This but mines a SPR and has a strong light, it would be that or the SCAR17 since that is a one gun does ALL option at the expense of ammo ease and some close in speed.

Both would be suppressed using really nice solid copper ammo. The AR would have a .22 carrier as well as some ammo but not a lot.

I would rather hold as long as practical though
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:00 PM
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Here's MY bug-out rifle. Don't laugh. It's light as a feather, reliable, requires absolutely no lube, has no magazines to get lost, and with the weight savings I can easily carry two 500-round bricks of ammo on me and be as GTG as I can be with a firearm. If I encounter a situation where this isn't enough gun I'm a dead man anyway. One man against 4 or 5 is very poor odds even if you have a full-auto M16.

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Old 11-16-2019, 11:07 AM
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Ill just stay out of range and plug you with a 308 and call it a day. No need to charge anything. 22lr is not and ideal defensive weapon, and has very limited capabilities for taking down enemy combatants.


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Never said 22lr was a good defensive option more of an all around compromise. I don't want to be shot by any caliber. Some will make fun of my puny 380 pocket gun until I offer to shoot them with it because you know its just a 380 what could it do. I'm sure if I offered to shoot you with a 22lr you would decline even though it not a good defensive option.
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Old 11-16-2019, 11:51 AM
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If we're talking pure combat, of course a .308 is superior. But in a true "bug out" scenario you're talking a weapon to hunt with, which will probably mean squirrels and other small animals since most of the deer and farm cows will have been mowed down within weeks of the catastrophe. A shotgun of course would be ideal if not for the fact that you'd need to have a variety of ammo and a place to carry it with you while you remain on the move.
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Old 11-16-2019, 11:58 AM
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Oh you mean we have to eat when we bug-out. Yes, a 22 is better for rabbit and squirrel, but with my AR, I can take somebody's rabbit and squirrel.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:41 AM
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Iíd love to have a place to bug out to but due to bad veins in my legs I canít even walk a block. Guess Iíll be getting to heaven sooner than most all of you but Iíll be cheering you all on from above. Iíll still take out as many as I can
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Old 11-24-2019, 10:34 PM
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I'm down to 1 rifle, Ruger Mini 14. There are worse bug out weapons.

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Old 11-24-2019, 10:40 PM
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I’d love to have a place to bug out to but due to bad veins in my legs I can’t even walk a block. Guess I’ll be getting to heaven sooner than most all of you but I’ll be cheering you all on from above. I’ll still take out as many as I can
It is indeed ironic that a lot of guys will spend thousands of dollars on the "perfect" bug-out rifle even though they themselves have a ton of health issues ranging from high blood pressure to obesity. If you're really serious about bugging out long-term you need to either do something about you health or else figure out how you're going to mitigate it with no doctors around. But then again I guess it's more fun to talk about short ARs than Lisinopril tablets.
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Old 11-25-2019, 01:18 AM
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Y'all talk like you would be bugging out alone. I have daughters who know how to shoot and the can pack stuff. I'll carry an AR And ammo they can haul 15-22s and mags and ammo. Or maybe one with an AR9. I mean the three most popular ammo types, should be able to scrounge one of them. Truth be told, I would only bug out as a very last resort.
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:39 AM
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I was strongly considering a 22 but 100,000 rounds wont do you any good if you canít quickly stop a threat thatís planning on shooting back to kill you. Still though, a 22 could be great for a group member.
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:18 AM
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If you have to bug out and need to use your selected weapon to obtain food, how much noise is acceptable? Me, a 308 AR. Wife, a 5.56 AR. Possibly, pellet pistol for small game. Recurve bow for larger animals. Darn, keep this up and Iíll need a cart for guns and ammo alone. Another cart for food. Guess we will stay in place.

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Old 12-08-2019, 01:17 PM
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If I had to "bug out" I wouldn't be alone. I would bring my Marlin Model 60 and plenty of 22lr ammunition.
The Model 60 doesn't have magazines and it's not plastic. It has a nice scope and is very accurate.
I would also carry my 9mm 1911.

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Old 12-09-2019, 03:07 AM
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Bug out ď1Ē rifle tough choice.

1. Sks 7.62x39 accurate, light, small ammo.
2. Russian izmash saiga in 223 accurate, light, superior ak action, light ammo.
3. Russian izmash saiga in 308 accurate, light, superior ak action, heavy ammo.

Overall tough choice, all are accurate, but everyone uses 223 ammo so thatís the most popular. Run low on ammo take theirs. My choice the saiga in 223.
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Old 01-02-2020, 10:59 PM
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Since I live in what is essentially a desert, if there is major power loss for more than a couple of days in the summer, bugging out will be a necessity. No power means no water and no cooling. Summers in the CA Central valley can be bad.
It doesn't help that I live just a few blocks from two sections of low income/ Section 8 housing that has a high crime rate
But, my choice would be my 45 acp 1911, with spare slide and barrels with mags for changing calibers if necessary. Plus my M14. I want something in common calibers so ammo is easily obtained.
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Old 01-03-2020, 04:15 PM
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You say you can pick some off with a .22 at 100 yards. No doubt you can hit them somewhere and mess up their day so long as its not windy. A HV .22lr bullet drops near a foot at 100 with a 50 yard zero so a head shoot would be tough. Chances are you are going to piss him off more than disable him. If I'm going to shoot at someone at that distance, I want something bigger and faster.
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Old 01-03-2020, 05:52 PM
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All right. If I was ďon the runĒ with no real threat other than being chased and all I needed it for was food I think a 22 would work. Itíll take small game quietly.

As far as a SHTF situation Iíd go AR in 556. Youíll be more able to scrounge ammo, mags, and parts as itís the most plentiful rifle/caliber in this country. Plus itís a stout enough caliber for offense/defense.
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Old 01-03-2020, 08:53 PM
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My bug out "weapons" bag. Yes, it's heavy.



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Old 01-04-2020, 12:07 AM
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Why would anyone bugout and leave the safety of their home AND leave their home susceptible to looters???
Social unrest??? Nope....ain't leaving.
Zombies??? Nope... ain't leaving. Got enough ammo to kill almost 100,000 of em.

My plan is to get back home. I hope I have eyes to see it coming.
Along with a steel gun on my hip, I'll be carrying a AR pistol.
I can legally conceal and cross all the state lines around here with a pistol under 26". I built one with a arm-brace and 11" barrel that's 26".
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Old 01-04-2020, 12:37 AM
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Yep. Get home is the goal. Might have to range out to bring the wife home if she's at work. I'm 62 and insulin diabetic. Short of a suddenly toxic environment I don't see leaving. Probably gonna die of the poison if it's sudden anyway. If a natural disaster such as a tornado hits us directly we're probably finished anyway. For the rest I'll just stick as long as we can and take as many as we can with us.

So when away from home for an overnighter I'll have the carry gun, usually a second handgun in the kit and either an AR, or once I've finished testing a PAK-9 pistol with brace taking the same mags as the handgun, that will replace the AR in the get home kit.

In my mind I'd like to be CPT Studmuffin. In reality I'm Sergeant Old & Slow. Complete with a wife with health issues and an 85 year old mother with Parkinson's. Like I told them. I'm the healthiest, fittest one of the bunch. We're SCREWED.
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Old 01-05-2020, 09:29 AM
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I toss this around in my head frequently. In a perfect world my AR in 300HAM'R would be the first choice but being dependent on reloading for a reliable ammo supply makes it a no-go unless the bugout situation is short term. My 10/22 is heavy and overscoped for general use so I'm building one that's lighter and more versatile. I've never been a fan of 5.56 but built one AR in it anyway just in case. If the situation demanded keeping a gun on my person at all times my 7.5" 300BO pistol starts making sense. It's usually at this point of the overthinking that I subscribe to current conventional wisdom that says to "bug-in" or "shelter in place". I'm 67 and in no shape to be living off the land or patrolling the streets looking for Nazis to kill.
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Old 01-07-2020, 10:43 PM
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Bug out?? How many of you have been outside overnight in a Wisconsin winter? No thanks, I will stay home and defend the Alamo. If it is time to go, I choose to go here, but whoever thinks it will be easy to overrun is in for a surprise.

I live in the country. All the talk about bugging out and living off the land is funny. Even the best hunters that are very familiar with an area get skunked on a regular basis. Squirrels and rabbits can be plentiful some years and not so much the next.

I can see having an escape plan if you live in a city. But don't plan on coming out to the country as a stranger and expect to live off the land or the people that live there.

Have a destination that is stocked with supplies that you can lay low and defend if need be.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:47 PM
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Just curious as to why one would not take their favorite AR platform in .223 and a .22 conversion kit? Seems like a perfect match for such a scenario.
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Old 01-19-2020, 09:36 PM
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My bug out "weapons" bag. Yes, it's heavy.



What scope is that? That's a nice package.
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