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Old 12-28-2019, 03:46 PM
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NIB Winchester firearms "in the white"?

Why did/does Winchester sell new production completed guns "in the white"? Do they require a finish of some sort?

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Old 12-28-2019, 04:38 PM
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One reason is to allow for engraving.

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Old 12-28-2019, 05:41 PM
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Since CDNN is basically a clearance warehouse I suspect these rifles were originally slated for a third party (like TALO) who planned to finish them on their own, and when the deal fell through CDNN ended up with them.
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Old 12-28-2019, 06:17 PM
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No sights?
I’d leave just as it is. Beautiful rifle
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Old 12-28-2019, 06:20 PM
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Makes me want to buy a 44. Too bad it isnt a 38/357.
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Old 12-28-2019, 06:51 PM
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dsk, that makes the most since about a third party. So if one was to purchase and planned on actually using it for its intended purpose, a finish of some type would be recommended? Being these aren't stainless steel, blueing or one of the hi-tec finishes?
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:23 PM
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Naked carbon steel requires a lot of oiling and TLC if you don't want it to rust or discolor. And if you live in a humid environment good luck no matter what you do. Fortunately there are still plenty of shops out there who can do a good bluing job for a reasonable amount. Of course if it's to be a working firearm then chrome-plating it would be even better. Spray-on finishes like Cerakote are cheaper and easier, but they would look like absolute crap on a nice firearm with gorgeous wood on it. A possible home-brewed solution would be to rust-blue it. Check YouTube for plenty of how-to videos.
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Old 12-29-2019, 12:40 AM
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Magazine tube and many small parts are blued.
Hard to see the objective.
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Old 12-29-2019, 01:14 AM
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These were originally slated for Navy Arms. Not sure why they wound up at CDNN.

I bought an 1892 in .44 Mag from them earlier this year and sent it off to Turnbull. The 92’s were all in White, including the mag tube.

The work I had done . . .

Remove the Tang Safety and weld the hole. They also took care of the rebounding hammer at the same time.

Receiver, small parts, end cap and front sight were Charcoal Blued. Barrel and Mag tube were slow rust Blued.

Hammer, Lever and Butt Plate was Color Cased Hardened.

They also supplied a Marbles Tang Peep Sight, which they also Charcoal Blued.

This was the perfect rifle to send off to do the work

Not sure if they are just taking a break with them till afte4 the New Year, but last week they did have the 73’s in .357, both 20” and 24”. 45LC in both lengths and 44-40 in 24”.
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:46 AM
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These were originally slated for Navy Arms. Not sure why they wound up at CDNN.

I bought an 1892 in .44 Mag from them earlier this year and sent it off to Turnbull. The 92’s were all in White, including the mag tube.

The work I had done . . .

Remove the Tang Safety and weld the hole. They also took care of the rebounding hammer at the same time.

Receiver, small parts, end cap and front sight were Charcoal Blued. Barrel and Mag tube were slow rust Blued.

Hammer, Lever and Butt Plate was Color Cased Hardened.

They also supplied a Marbles Tang Peep Sight, which they also Charcoal Blued.

This was the perfect rifle to send off to do the work

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Turnbull was my first thought also. How long did the work take?

Have any pics to share? Did you consider CCH for the receiver?
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Old 12-29-2019, 09:27 AM
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Different that’s for sure.......I can’t imagine that they would look like that very long without a finish.
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Old 12-29-2019, 01:18 PM
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USFA made the China Camp SAA in the white, meant to be shot that way.
I saw one pair of them and although they were well kept, there was still some darkening of the naked steel in areas where maybe the oily cloth didn't reach and handling didn't rub.
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