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Old 12-06-2019, 08:01 PM
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Winchester .38 Spl 130gr +P PDX1 Bonded in Clear Ballistics Gel.



Test Gun: S&W M442
Barrel length: 1 7/8 inches.
Ammunition: Winchester .38 Spl 130gr +P PDX1 Bonded
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.
Five shot velocity average: 846fps
Gel Temperature 71 degrees.

I got an average 5 shot average velocity of 846fps with a high of 871 and a low of 830fps.


Five rounds off-hand at 5 yards.

Round one in the bare gel had a velocity of 852fps and penetrated to 12.5 inches. The recovered diameter was .58 inches and the weight was 129.3 grains. The second round had a velocity of 835fps and penetrated to 13.5 inches. Itís recovered weight was 128.2 grains and expansion was .59 inches.



When shot through the heavy clothing the first roundís velocity was not recorded. It didnít expand and the recovered weight was 129.5 and it penetrated to 22 inches. The second round also did not expand and penetrated to 18 inches. Its velocity was 797fps and the recovered weight was 129 grains.

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Old 12-06-2019, 11:01 PM
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Thanks for posting. I suspect that the failure to expand through the heavy clothing might be different with a 4 inch barrel.
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Old 12-07-2019, 09:47 AM
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Thatís disappointing with the clothing test. Do you have a similar test with the HST? Iím thinking the velocity is just too low. A 4Ē barrel would be worse.
I would bet the same projectile out of a 357 would be markedly better.
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:57 PM
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Thatís disappointing with the clothing test. Do you have a similar test with the HST? Iím thinking the velocity is just too low. A 4Ē barrel would be worse.
I would bet the same projectile out of a 357 would be markedly better.
Yes, here is the HST I tested.

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Old 12-08-2019, 09:33 AM
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Thanks for that!
How bout one more...the PDX1 in 357. Clothing test.

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Old 12-08-2019, 04:01 PM
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That 130 HST in yours and Lucky Gunner's tests is looking like a very good round for the short barrel revolvers, where velocity is relatively low. I was issued the .38 Spcl. Federal 129 Hydra-shok for years. That load appears to be rather Underwhelming in gel tests. I suspect some of the lackluster 38 Spcl. performers might be decent in 4" or longer barrels. But 4" or longer barrels are not what most are using .38 Spcl. SD ammo in now days...

Thanks again for your efforts with these gel tests.
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