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Old 04-20-2017, 08:29 PM
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Hard Chrome UTC has arrived!

Well, this is my first Baer and my first impression is a positive one. John from 1911 Heaven had this to my LGS in 3 business days. Thanks for a flawless transaction John.

APPEARANCE: The hard chrome finish is nicer than I expected. The polished flats are classically sexy. I don't envision much issue with cleaning this gun. Cocking serrations are superb as far as grip and although I don't normally acquire guns with FCS, I don't mind them on this particular piece. It does seem like the cocking serrations are lint, crumb, and powder magnets but nothing a toothbrush won't take care of.

QUALITY: It is apparent from the first touch that this gun exudes quality. The slide to frame fit is tight with no rattles. I was actually surprised that this particular gun was only slightly more difficult to rack than my other guns. I have read all the threads regarding how difficult Baers are to rack but I did not find this to be the case. It is smooth from the get go and I can only imagine how it will feel after 1000 rounds. All the small parts seem to be quality, I especially like the textured slide stop. The only comment regarding small parts is the magazine release. You can see a casting line right down the middle. Not sure why they can't get rid of that? You can tell the magwell was blended by hand as it's not perfect but it's not obvious or apparent when the magazine is inserted.

ERGONOMICS: It is obvious that the grip dimensions are not standard. There is definitely a feeling of increased fore/aft dimensions. It's neither good or bad. However, these slim grips are not my cup of tea and as soon as my Challis grip bushings and hardware arrive, I will be swapping the grips for standard 1/2 checkered Cocobolos, most likely from Esmeralda.

I haven't field stripped the gun yet as I would like to put at least 500 rounds down range before doing so. However, I was curious how tight the barrel bushing was so I tried to remove it and DAYUM!!!!.......it's not coming off without a wrench for sure!

I didn't even unwrap the 3 included magazines and will be sticking to My Tripp 8 round Cobras unless for some reason the UTC doesn't like them.

Anyway, I can't really say much more until I get it to the range this weekend. I will be sure to leave a follow up post with some dirty pics! Is it wrong to already be thinking about my next Baer purchase? In any case, here are some virginal pics....
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Old 04-20-2017, 08:52 PM
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Beautiful pistol, and great pictures. Congratulations
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:05 PM
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You're gonna love it.

First shot I took with mine.


Followed by the remaining 49 in the first box thru it.


After that I was like 'heck yeah!'
Fine shootin' iron 'tis sir.
Enjoy it.
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:10 PM
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You guys are breakin my heart. I can't get one in Commiefornia
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:33 PM
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Congrats. Baers don't rattle. Lol. It will most likely 99 % like tripps, Good looking Baer , Hope she runs perfect for you .
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:36 PM
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Incredible workmanship. I'm on the fence between the NP3 + finish or HC from Baer. Richard Cranium, I'm in california as well. Just buy any Baer and send it in to them, I have the custom carry.
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:43 PM
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Beautiful, love the HC finish.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:14 AM
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Great Purchase!

Awesome gun!

I didn't like thin grips on my TRS, so swapped them out and bought std TR grips.

I never owned a LB HC pistol. I'd be tempted to shoot 1K rds to wear in a HC pistol

How does the Tactical Carry Package feel?

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Old 04-21-2017, 05:21 AM
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really nice job with that order

how long was the build time?

congrats and good lick

enjoy the ride
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:06 AM
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really nice job with that order

how long was the build time?

congrats and good lick

enjoy the ride
In a previous post I think he said CJ had some in stock. I'm hoping to find a used UTC and then send it to Les to be chromed. I guess a Thunder Ranch would be the same pistol, except I don't want the TR Logo.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:06 AM
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They must have had a recent run of these pistols because I got one this week too.

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Old 04-21-2017, 10:37 AM
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Sweet !!!!!
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:00 PM
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Good looking gun.
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:17 PM
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I want one now
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Old 04-21-2017, 04:33 PM
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Thanks for the compliments everyone!

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Awesome gun!

I didn't like thin grips on my TRS, so swapped them out and bought std TR grips.

I never owned a LB HC pistol. I'd be tempted to shoot 1K rds to wear in a HC pistol

How does the Tactical Carry Package feel?
Honestly, I'm not even really sure what the Tactical Carry Package consists of and I've never shot a Baer so can't help you there.

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really nice job with that order

how long was the build time?

congrats and good lick

enjoy the ride
John at 1911 Heaven had this one in stock when I ordered. Took 5 days for him to receive my check. He mailed the package out the very next day (Saturday), and it arrived on Wednesday. I had a whopping total wait time of 10 days!
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:19 PM
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Very nice pistol!
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:56 PM
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Very nice. HC will be on my next Baer whatever I decide to get. Personally I like the slim grips on my UTC. Although I did swap out the wood with some G10s off a Dan Wesson Valor. The UTC is the best shooting gun I own.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:38 PM
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That looks like a hard chrome SWAP model.

(SWeet Ass Pistol)

Nice!!!!
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:14 PM
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Well, I couldn't wait until tomorrow to shoot my UTC so I headed out to the range tonight to start the break-in.

Loaded up five 8-round Tripp Cobra-mags and let the lead fly! Tarheeldoc was right....it loved the Cobra-mags. Not one FTF or FTE in the 250 rounds I shot tonight. Pretty stoked about that........however,

Things weren't 100% perfect. In the first 150 rounds with S&B 230 gr. FMJ, I did not experience a single malfunction. Then I switched to WWB and experienced 2 premature slide locks in the next 100 rounds. Not too sure what might have caused this but it's certainly possible that my offhand thumb may have been the culprit. I will keep an eye on this during my next session. In any case, I'm glad that my pistol wasn't a jam-o-matic like stories I've read!

ACCURACY: No doubt this pistol is more accurate that I'm capable of shooting. The target below was my first 50 rounds at 10 yards.

TRIGGER: I can't say that there's an earth shattering difference between the UTC and my other three 1911's (NH Falcon Commander, DW Specialist, DW Vbob). There is slight creep before the crisp break and it feels like it breaks around 4 lbs, haven't had a gauge on it yet.

ERGONOMICS: I keep returning to this subject because it's important to me that the pistol feel like it was made for my right hand. Well, As I mentioned previously, slim grips are not my cup of tea and shooting it tonight just reinforced that. I really dislike the slims and especially so on this pistol. The greater fore/aft measurement of the grip coupled with the slims made it feel like I was holding a metallic 2x4. Yes, I'm exaggerating but I didn't care for how blocky it felt. I can't wait to change to standard size bushings and grips.

In addition to the blockiness, I noticed that the pad of the grip safety was irritating the web between my thumb and index finger. So much so that it was leaving a red outline in my skin and it actually hurt to shoot. I thought it was because of the grips since I have never had this issue with any other pistol before. On further inspection, I noticed that when the grip safety is fully depressed, it still sits up higher than the MSH. In other words, it's not close to being flush with the MSH. I would say it sticks up about 5 mm or more, I'll have to measure it. It's definitely noticeable compared to my other guns. Not sure if there is a solution to this?

A couple other things to note:
- I lubricated the pistol after every 50 rounds without field stripping it.
- The Cobra mags inserted easily and dropped freely every time. They do get awefully close to the ejector when inserted. I checked for any wear on the left feed lips of each magazine and found none.
- The Baer cocking serrations are the grippiest I have ever felt. There will be no slippage with these. Much preferred over the Falcons ball cut serrations.

Overall, I am impressed with the accuracy and I think the gun looks fantastic. I will work on the grip to see if I can get a better feel and comfort and maybe the grip safety won't cause so much discomfort. I'll post again on Monday after another 250. G-Nite!
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Old 04-22-2017, 05:18 AM
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I am going to order or seek out a MOnolith heavy or comanche monolith heavy with the hard chrome. My supertac with hard chrome is just a wonderful piece. my wifes favorite. one of mine too.makes us look good on the range


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Old 04-22-2017, 08:56 PM
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You guys are killing me. Gorgeous.
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Old 04-23-2017, 12:23 AM
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Very nice!
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Old 04-23-2017, 08:26 AM
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Very good range report. Slim line grips are not for every one myself included. Look into Challis grip bushings for the change over and best results.

http://www.challisgrips.com/pg/17-He...-Bushings.aspx
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Old 04-23-2017, 08:44 AM
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Dirty pics, you know what we like!

Can you post a pic of the grip safety issue you are having? Is it the shape of the pad you are talking about?
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Old 04-23-2017, 09:35 AM
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Very good range report. Slim line grips are not for every one myself included. Look into Challis grip bushings for the change over and best results.

http://www.challisgrips.com/pg/17-He...-Bushings.aspx
Yes sir, Challis hardware has already been ordered

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Dirty pics, you know what we like!

Can you post a pic of the grip safety issue you are having? Is it the shape of the pad you are talking about?
Dirty pics

So here's a couple pics of the memory pad (bump) issue on the grip safety. The Baer is on the left and my DW Specialist is on the right in both pictures. In the first picture, the grip safeties are uncompressed. The second picture shows both of them compressed. It's obvious, even with the naked eye, that the Baer safety sticks up further when fully compressed. This is leaving an imprint in my hand and it hurts. I have searched this issue and it looks like it is not an uncommon issue for many. The difference is a few mm but it mak s all the difference in the world
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