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Old 04-20-2017, 06:57 PM
Rhomc Rhomc is offline
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Slide not staying open.

Recently bought a rock island 1911 gi. Went to shoot it for the first time today. Out of 10 times of running the magazine empty the slide didn't stay open 3 or 4 times. Anyone had any issues with this?

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Old 04-20-2017, 07:21 PM
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Yes, I've had the same problem with several different magazines.
Some work fine, others not so much...I think it's the slide stop
and e-mailed customer service with the problem, but all they want
to do is sell me there mags. I told them I thought it was the slide
stop, but I guess it fell on deaf ears...
Denny
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Old 04-20-2017, 08:16 PM
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I was thinking it might be a magazine issue as well but I don't know. I'm going to email customer service. They can't tell me it's a magazine issue unless they plan on sending me a new one because it's brand new.

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Old 04-20-2017, 08:35 PM
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Yes, I've had the same problem with several different magazines.
Some work fine, others not so much...I think it's the slide stop
and e-mailed customer service with the problem, but all they want
to do is sell me there mags. I told them I thought it was the slide
stop, but I guess it fell on deaf ears...
Denny
Just had a quick chat with them. Told me to fill out a warranty claim online and they would contact me. They did say about a break in period and I said I understand but I don't think any breaking in would fix my issue.

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Old 04-20-2017, 08:45 PM
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Yea, I got the same line...Did you clean it, does it work with our magazine
etc..... It should work with most mags, unless the mag springs are weak.
I'm just going to order a new slide stop from some other company as I've
heard a lot of bad reports of bad stops.
Denny
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:08 PM
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Yea, I got the same line...Did you clean it, does it work with our magazine
etc..... It should work with most mags, unless the mag springs are weak.
I'm just going to order a new slide stop from some other company as I've
heard a lot of bad reports of bad stops.
Denny
Forgive me for my ignorance this is my first 1911, would the slide stop be this piece? I want to get the extended one anyway.

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Old 04-20-2017, 09:47 PM
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Never mind I did some research and saw some issues that can cause my problem. Thanks for your input.

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Old 04-21-2017, 01:47 PM
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Yeah, RIA has known issues with not locking open after the last round fired. I bought Kimpro and Wilson mags. and no more problems. The "correct" fix is a top quality slide stop.

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Old 04-21-2017, 05:13 PM
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Yeah, RIA has known issues with not locking open after the last round fired. I bought Kimpro and Wilson mags. and no more problems. The "correct" fix is a top quality slide stop.

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Where is the best place to get a quality slide stop?

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Old 04-21-2017, 07:08 PM
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Evolution Gun Works. With some followers you can very slightly bend the engagement tab of the follower and make it reach the stop lug. If that is not possible then you need a slide stop with a longer lug. Be aware that extended slide stops have more mass and can bounce with the recoil and lock the slide back with rounds remaining in the magazine. Also it's too easy for a thumb to get under it and trip it while shooting rapidly. A shallow dimple cut on the slide stop where the plunger presses on it in the down position can help hold it down. Just don't cut the dimple too deep or it will never lock open. Personally I would just learn to use a standard slide stop and trip it with your left thumb. Almost no one can reach a slide stop without having to twist the gun in their hand and then re-establishing their grip (which isn't really a big deal unless you're shooting on the clock).

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Old 04-30-2017, 12:09 PM
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Well, I got a used military slide stop from a buddy of mine and
now, no matter what magazine I use the slide locks back on a
empty mag. Even the cheap aftermarket ones work fine. I guess
I was right, it was a bad slide stop. Problem solved without RIA's
help.
Denny
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Old 05-03-2017, 10:41 PM
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The cheapest slidestop that Wilson Combat manufacturer's costs about $32.00. It cured the same problem in my GI RIA.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:59 AM
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It seems like they have a lot of problems with the slide stops....
you would think they would have this figured out by now.
when I was in contact with them, they never offered to replace
it for me.just wanted to sell me there mags that work. They have to know somethings wrong with them.
Denny
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:11 AM
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They are not the only company having these problems. This is what happens when you try to mass produce a pistol without paying strict attention to the blueprint, allow tolerances to vary too much so you can reduce the number of parts you have to reject and don't bother to do rigid quality control and just "drop in" parts instead of fitting them to each frame. They are trying to build a 1911 as if it were a cheap lawn mower.
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:31 PM
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Your right...I have no problems with the gun other than this. It works
flawlessly every other way. I think it was a real buy for the price.
Never have any malfunctions of any kind through 400 rounds.I love
this gun.
Denny
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:54 PM
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I wonder where they came up with the 500 rd breakin? That's expensive.

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Old 05-06-2017, 06:34 AM
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I call BS on 500rnd break in. If it isn't working out of the box, no good reason to think it will ever work.

I had a similar problem in my GI model. I put in an EGW slide stop. Problem solved. Apparently, EGW slide stops don't need a "break in period"
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Old 05-06-2017, 08:37 AM
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I agree. If the gun will not function out of the box shooting it 500 more times is just a waste of ammunition and time. Poorly and sloppily built guns do not "fix themselves" with more firing. Kimber came up with the whole "break in" silliness when they found themselves literally buried in returned defective guns. The really amazing part is that so many guys believed it and have now transferred this theory to any brand of gun. Try to imagine if the Dept. of Defense was told that every new M 16 they purchase will need to be "broken in" with 500 rounds before it is taken into battle. I'm sure they would go along with that.....

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Old 05-06-2017, 08:23 PM
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I had the same issue, Armscor took care of it.

Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 2:18 pm
Subject: Re: Ticket #0OSWJ: Response to: Contact Support (www.armscor.com)


Thu, 02/09/17 7:18 pm

Good afternoon Mr. Hall,

I've ordered a new Slide Stop for your firearm, and you should receive it within 5 to 7 business days.

Best Regards;
Ty Hill
Armscor Customer Service
armscor.com
us.advancedtactical.com
(775) 537-1444
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Old 05-07-2017, 12:24 PM
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My replacement CS .45 had the same problem.It would rarely lock the slide after the last round was fired.The part was a POS,so I replaced it with another and problem solved,or so I thought.

Worked fine for a few mags,then no slide-lock again.Looked at the gun and ***!,the slide had a chunk missing from it at the notch.

Complained to RIA,and was told,get this,that the part I used was too hard and caused damage to their slide

I should have learned my lesson after the first issue with their crap,but this time was what did it for me with them.Never again will I waste money on any of their products.
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Old 05-07-2017, 03:45 PM
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Interesting experiences. I seem to recall hearing stellar reviews about RIA customer service and products. Here lately, it seems like there are more reports of folks having to jump through hurdles in order to get some kind of resolution.

Did RIA grow too big for its britches? Has something changed?
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:55 AM
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Usually just a aftermarket slide stop cures the issue.
But if the gun was bought new sending it back is always the answer.
My 9mm CS wouldn't hold a mag in it after the 1st shot.
Sent the gun back with 5 mags.
Within 10 days a new gun with my 5 mags was returned.
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Old 05-08-2017, 01:17 PM
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RIA rep claimed it was the aftermarket slide-stop that I put in was too hard and ruined the slide.This is without even seeing the damn gun.

2 failed guns and 2 horrible CS experiances = No more RIA for me!

Other people might have had good product from them,but I sure didn't.
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