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Old 08-10-2019, 09:40 AM
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On dedicated truck guns

Iíve gone back and forth on this one a lot. Like so many other posts on this site, a recent post got me thinking again about it. Pros are obvious enough. Im pondering quick access vs security. I have a Ď15 Ford F-150 4x4 and thought about deep stashing in the compartment under the middle fold-up seat. I frequently carry but just not all the time.

Question to the group (those of you who keep a gun permanently stowed): whatís your configuration and if you care to share, why?
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:14 AM
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I've always liked the idea of a "truck gun." And a few years ago I bought a Springfield Mil-Spec for that very purpose. But after seeing a post here on the 1911 Forum where a member sent his Mil-Spec to ACW for their "retro" conversion, I had to do the same thing. Now my Mil-Spec is so nice that I wouldn't dare to toss it into a cubby in my truck. I've always got one on my hip anyway.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:26 AM
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Im seeing more posts about ACW. Dang it.. I really can’t spend more money but they’re really nice guns. Totally get your point on it being too nice for a truck gun. I picked up a better than nice AO 1911 that I’m thinking would be a right fit. Not expensive at all but it shoots.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:30 AM
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There is a company that makes a lock box that fits the console youíre talking about. I just ordered one for my truck. I use a lightly customized Springfield mil-spec in a kydex paddle holster with magazine pouches carrying Wilson 10 rounders. Both the holster and the pouches are quick on if I needed it.


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Old 08-10-2019, 10:34 AM
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Yes, I think that AO would be perfect. On the ACW Mil-Spec, look at the posts from "LivetoRide." He had his Mil-Spec done by ACW. I loved it and sent mine for the same thing, except I wanted to retain the arched MSH. It's a subtle looking conversion. The gun looks fairly stock, but has Harrison Retro Extreme sights, Cylinder and Slide trigger group, upgraded other parts, and a hard-coat finish. It would still make a great truck gun, just a super nice one.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:50 AM
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7.62X25 handgun or carbine will pierce body work. Leaving a firearm in a vehicle can cause rust quickly from temperature inversions - best to store indoors, especially since thieves seem to find out what's hidden & where. Recommend having a concealed carry permit (although not necessary everywhere) to conceal in a vehicle - but can make explaining a lot easier. I never leave firearms stored in a vehicle - but everybody is different.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:51 AM
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There is a company that makes a lock box that fits the console youíre talking about. I just ordered one for my truck
What product is that? Iíll check it out.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:53 AM
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Yes, I think that AO would be perfect. On the ACW Mil-Spec, look at the posts from "LivetoRide." He had his Mil-Spec done by ACW. I loved it and sent mine for the same thing.
Checking now. Definitely interested
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:57 AM
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What product is that? Iíll check it out.


https://www.consolevault.com/Chevrol...017_p_125.html


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Old 08-10-2019, 11:01 AM
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My thoughts are that the price of a Truck Gun is calculated like this:

Gun + Gun Vault + Sales Tax

If you cannot pay all 3, you cannot afford a Truck Gun.
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:17 AM
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I can afford it, mag-man. Just thinking it through but out loud this time. I don’t always carry but when I jump in the truck for a quick run to the store and if’n I need it... glove box? Make use of the console? What about uncontrolled access? You mention GunVault. Good product there. I use one at bedside. I’m not visualizing how it’d work with a Ford truck though.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:22 PM
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My thoughts are that the price of a Truck Gun is calculated like this:

Truck + Gun + Gun Vault + Sales Tax

If you cannot pay all 4, you cannot afford a Truck Gun.
Fixed it for you!
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:29 PM
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I have a Knack tool box in the back of my truck.

It is chained in and locks up pretty tight. The truck gun goes in there when it is prudent to do so. No smash and grab dope head is going to get their hands on it.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:26 PM
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So deep stashing it in the bottom center console (GaBoy45s suggestion looks pretty good actually) isn’t going to attract a smash n grab but simple break n enter is always a risk. My GV bedside safe is both combo and biometric. Wish there was that option. Still, though center console isn’t going to be fast quick, it’d definitely impede unauthorized access.
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Old 08-10-2019, 03:13 PM
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I have used the console vault in both an Expedition and a Ford F-150 for several years. I read some reviews before purchase and one in particular impressed me. Fellow stated his truck had been broken into three times and serious attempts had been made to open the vault door on one of those times. Thief was not able to get the door open and other than scratches, did not seriously damage the vault.

I've had no attempts to break in to my vehicles so my vault has not been tested in that fashion. But my experience with this vault is totally satisfactory. I had some difficulties with one of the installations so I called the help number on the website. The owner of the company talked to me, walked me through the process, also sent me a video of the installation process specific to my vehicle, and stayed with me on the phone till I got it done. I just had not found the correct way to get the parts into the console and did not realize doing so would require me to put a bit of pressure on one part to get it inside. The first one was no trouble at all... The owner was very helpful, very patient, and my experience with customer service was exemplary! I highly recommend this vendor and product.

Just traded the F-150 for a 2019 Ford Ranger that has only been on the market since early 2019. Just now looked and they have two vaults for that medium sized truck, one to fit the small console space between the front seats, and one to fit a much larger storage compartment underneath the rear seat in the supercrew body configuration. I was suprised to find that they already have a vault to fit only one space but two! Since the console is relatively small, I'm going to choose the vault that fits the larger storage compartment under the rear seat which will be of much more utility to my wife and I. While talking to the owner during my first installation, he told me that they purchase an actual console body or compartment area for the vehicles they built vaults for so they can design the most efficient vault to use the maximum storage space available for those vehicles. I believe it! I highly recommend console vault for it's intended purpose. The ones I have used are not seen from outside the vehicle if the console lid or seat is not open or up exposing the locking door. Even if they were in plain view, getting inside the vault will NOT be a smash and grab proposition. On the other hand, if your vehicle is stolen, so is your vault and it's contents, and no doubt with plenty of time and cutting torch or other power tool, I'm sure access to the vault would be possible. With plenty of time and the right tools, even a bank vault can be opened! My console vaults have given me a great deal of peace of mind on those few occasions when I must remove my EDC to take care of business. I do not leave any firearm in the vault on a regular basis overnight.

The vaults are not cheap, but even so, they won't cost as much as replacement of most handguns, etc that we might purchase today. I believe firmly that these vaults are well worth the expense if the company makes one to fit your vehicle.
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Old 08-10-2019, 03:54 PM
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Kthom you about clinched it for me. And $250 is reasonable considering the rationale. My truck isn’t out on the street. We’re on acreage, behind a fence/gate, and it’s really more piece of mind. Appreciated your thorough review. Thanks!
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:20 PM
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No matter how deeply you stash it, thieves will find it. It’s what they do. Either lock it up or don’t put it in there.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:16 PM
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This is the long and the short of it right here.

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No matter how deeply you stash it, thieves will find it. Itís what they do. Either lock it up or donít put it in there.
You either make it really difficult, as in the physical sense to get your gun. Or they will get it. Some have proposed hiding deep within the center console as a workable solution. I would counter this with a suggestion that they up their dosage, if they think that this will work. Your center console is a plastic box glued to your carpet. Think about it!
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:52 PM
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I think a truck gun needs to easily assessable. I like mine on my backseat in a gun rack. Throw a jacket over it when you want to conceal it. Tinted windows help.
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:55 PM
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:33 PM
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:53 PM
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I went by the shop that services my vehicles a while back and the owner mentioned to me that his F250 console vault was broken into recently during the day (lunch) at a Red Lobster parking lot. He said he was surprised and apparently a cordless sawzall was used. The door wasn't cut, just the latch. They were then able to bend the door and get it open. He said they broke the knob off the combo lock, but the lock was not breached.

Seems to me they targeted him thinking there would be a gun in the console. He didn't have one there this time. I guess with all the guns being left in vehicles, the thieves are doing what they need to and possibly carrying more tools. At least this one was. It reminded me of when they were stealing catalytic converters in parking lots with cordless sawzalls.

He said he would be surprised if it took more than a couple minutes. You can see here where the cam can be cut making the door easier to then pry open. It can be pretty hard to stay a step ahead of a real thief. Certainly would deter a typical smash and grab.

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Old 08-11-2019, 08:57 PM
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I keep a pair of handcuffs locked on my driver seat rail. If I have to go into a place where I'm unauthorized to carry, my pistol gets handcuffed to the rail and concealed under the seat.

Believe me when I tell you that this is a very rare situation and I'm nervous the entire time. I'm responsible for that weapon and very uneasy anytime it is out of my immediate control and custody.

Is my method foolproof?
Hardly, trucks are stolen everyday.
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:47 AM
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I do not have one, I carry. So if I can not bring it in with me, then I leave it in the console till I return.
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:35 AM
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I have no use myself for a truck gun, but every once in a while I need to secure it when I can't carry in a place.

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