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Old 01-27-2020, 08:00 PM
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This is a video from Chicago. This is WHY we need 2A to stay.

https://www.facebook.com/10000261461...9111445519317/
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Old 01-27-2020, 08:21 PM
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That's crazy! Glad that guy was armed.
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Old 01-27-2020, 08:53 PM
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I don't understand why people inside the restaurant started yelling when the guy pulled his gun out to defend himself, but while he was being attacked nobody said or did anything. I admire the victim's restraint to not shoot the miscreants as they walked away.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:06 PM
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I don't understand why people inside the restaurant started yelling when the guy pulled his gun out to defend himself, but while he was being attacked nobody said or did anything.
Nobody cares when somebody else is getting the crap beat out of them as long as they're a safe distance away. But as soon as a gun comes out they know they could get shot as well which is why they panic.

BTW I couldn't see the video but I've seen this type of behavior before.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:10 PM
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dsk is right in target.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:32 PM
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I have to agree with Pollux and DSK, people don't care about others just their own skins, and the armed guy did the right thing by not shooting after they started walking away at that point they were no longer a threat to him. If he had shot them I could just imagine the s*^$ storm that would have ensued. Press would have a field day " Armed man shoots
two young men outside burger joint" using automatic gun with high capacity magazine.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:54 PM
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This is what makes me sick about people in society these days. They see somebody getting assaulted or in an accident, and they'd rather get out their cell phones and take pics for their Facebook page than use those same phones to call 911. They don't give a damn until THEY are the ones in danger. It's usually up to one person out of a crowd of 20 to actually do the right thing and either intervene or call the police. The rest simply don't want to get involved or interrupt their busy schedule to help somebody out.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:58 PM
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I can't see the video. I don't have a Fakebook account.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:58 PM
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It's not just that the onlookers could get shot, it's also because it went from fisticuffs to a possible double homicide. The stakes went up in a huge way. THAT'S going to get a huge reaction.

Btw, is the vic in uniform? He seems to have a lot of stuff on his belt.
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:59 PM
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Polymerman------ I don't either but I could still see the vid.
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Old 01-28-2020, 07:47 AM
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I don't understand why people inside the restaurant started yelling when the guy pulled his gun out to defend himself, but while he was being attacked nobody said or did anything. I admire the victim's restraint to not shoot the miscreants as they walked away.
that's my thought. It's almost as if you can hear a "pop" as they push him Into that corner then as he emerges his side arm is out. So I wonder if he did fire off a round?
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Old 01-28-2020, 07:52 AM
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Old 01-28-2020, 08:11 AM
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I can't see the video. I don't have a Fakebook account. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/frown.gif[/IMG]
My apologies. I tried to find the actual source link, but no luck. I realize not everyone uses Facebook. Again I'm sorry. It was from "the Constitutional Republican" page. Maybe Google that group and see if they have a web address.
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Old 01-28-2020, 08:15 AM
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It's not just that the onlookers could get shot, it's also because it went from fisticuffs to a possible double homicide. The stakes went up in a huge way. THAT'S going to get a huge reaction.

Btw, is the vic in uniform? He seems to have a lot of stuff on his belt.
I don't believe he was LEO as he didn't arrest them. Appeared to be maybe a retired vet (some unidentifiable badges/insignia on his vest or jacket). They seemed to Target his hat for some reason. Maybe a military hat or trump hat?? He was a nice guy in my opinion. He actually picks something up off the ground belonging to the perps and hands it back to them.
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Old 01-28-2020, 08:43 AM
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Old 01-28-2020, 09:09 AM
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I looks to my untrained eye that option number one for him might have been mace or pepper spray, which he drew and was then ripped out of his hand by thug #1 who then, it appears, tried to use it on him. At that point, option #2 was then to draw the pistol, which ended the encounter. I believe that it might be the mace or pepper spray that he then picks up off of the ground. (Notice the open pouch on his left side as we walks away from the camera.) But, hey, what do I know? Chicago is not on my list of places to revisit!!!

Incredible restraint on the part of this man. Kudos to him.

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Old 01-28-2020, 09:12 AM
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It’s a sad day in America at least in Chicago?
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Old 01-28-2020, 09:30 AM
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I looks to my untrained eye that option number one for him might have been mace or pepper spray, which he drew and was then ripped out of his hand by thug #1 who then, it appears, tried to use it on him. At that point, option #2 was then to draw the pistol, which ended the encounter. I believe that it might be the mace or pepper spray that he then picks up off of the ground. (Notice the open pouch on his left side as we walks away from the camera.) But, hey, what do I know? Chicago is not on my list of places to revisit!!! [IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/hrm.gif[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/hrm.gif[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/hrm.gif[/IMG]

Incredible restraint on the part of this man. Kudos to him.
You may be correct. I didn't think at that scenario.
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Old 01-28-2020, 10:35 AM
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The face of most crime in MY hometown is sadly a face of color. It is difficult daily to follow Dr King's wisdom and judge others by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin..... but the gods know I try. The video shows an excellent example of a firearm stopping a threat without ever being fired. Kudos to the uniformed victim for their restraint under extreme pressure.
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Old 01-28-2020, 10:40 AM
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Old 01-28-2020, 10:46 AM
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Btw, is the vic in uniform? He seems to have a lot of stuff on his belt.
This happened a few months ago. As I recall it, the man was the security guard for the McDonald's restaurant that the video was filled from. I don't recall what caused him to engage the two scumbags.

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Old 01-28-2020, 10:57 AM
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Here's the video.

From April 8, 2019

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/04...o-shots-fired/

Always look for the date in these vids. Listen to the whole thing as well. Notice the people defending the guard afterwards.

No one called 911. One man goes out to help the guard after he pulls the gun.

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Old 01-28-2020, 11:19 AM
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Here's the video.

From April 8, 2019

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/04...o-shots-fired/

Always look for the date in these vids. Listen to the whole thing as well. Notice the people defending the guard afterwards.

No one called 911. One man goes out to help the guard after he pulls the gun.

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Thank you. Iíve actually seen that before. Kinda sad that McDonalds has to have a security guard.
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Old 01-28-2020, 11:57 AM
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Street crime and smash&grab type attacks are being more frequent in the 'nice' and more affluent areas of the city. The very same ones with the highest proliferation of 'Gun Free Zone' signs and liberal mindsets. Who'd a thunk it?
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This is what makes me sick about people in society these days. They see somebody getting assaulted or in an accident, and they'd rather get out their cell phones and take pics for their Facebook page than use those same phones to call 911. They don't give a damn until THEY are the ones in danger. It's usually up to one person out of a crowd of 20 to actually do the right thing and either intervene or call the police. The rest simply don't want to get involved or interrupt their busy schedule to help somebody out.
Back 100 years ago, I bet all the men in the area would take turns trouncing the miscreants. How far we have regressed.

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