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Old 10-07-2019, 12:47 AM
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Kongsberg-Colten

Pictures of a Waffenamt 1945 Norwegian Pistol. The dark areas are 74 year-old finish bloom.

This one is the fourth of the Waffenamt 1945 Norwegian Pistols. Maybe a little beat-up (mishandling damage/wear, most likely, in a heap/pile several times) and with a Waffenamt stamp jump.

There is a lot of info in the Clawson GM book, pages 163 through 180. He shows a Waffenamt 1945 on page 179. IIRC, it shows all the markings a Waffenamt 1945 should have, except the grip safety, the main spring housing, and the bottom of the chamber on the barrel, which also have the last 3 of the serial number. The KONGSBERG-COLTEN also shows a inspection letter on the top of the slide behind the rear sight. The first Waffenamt 1945 (serial number 29615) shown in the book, has a "J", the fourth has a "A". Apparently, 29973 does not have a stamp in that position (pictures from that book). Chuck Clawson cautioned that the 920 Waffenamt 1945s (29615 through 30534) were Not issued...so the higher collectable examples can have handling marks but should show little usage (similar to the Lend-Lease Pistols).
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Old 10-07-2019, 05:53 PM
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Here's Barrel details on this early one (4th out of 920).

Later Waffenamt 1945 Norwegian Pistols had Waffenamt Barrels.
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:27 PM
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Is the WAa84 only located on the left of the slide?
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:52 PM
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Is the WAa84 only located on the left of the slide?
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Yes. (Actually it is WaA84.)

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Old 10-07-2019, 09:20 PM
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I can never remember in which position the capital A is.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:11 AM
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Hi, nice, thanks for posting, Mike
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Old 10-09-2019, 09:30 PM
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1927 Norwegian Pistol.

Here's some details on a 1927.


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Norwegian C 008-2.jpg   Norwegian C 005-4.jpg   Norwegian C 052-2.jpg   Norwegian C 061-2.jpg   Norwegian C 065-2.jpg   Norwegian C 040-2.jpg  

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Old 10-10-2019, 08:46 PM
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Barrel details for the 1927.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:39 AM
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Terrific Stan2. Thanks for sharing
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:15 PM
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Another Kongsberg-Colten.

Here's a special 1941. With that unique 41 Finish.

The 41 is/was "hatt malingsfinish",---had paint finish. (See p. 178 in Clawson's GM book, or p. 110 in KONGSBERG-COLTEN.)


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Old 10-19-2019, 05:39 AM
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Thanks for the informative post. I recently managed to acquire a Kongsberg Colt in 97% condition and am thrilled to finally have one.

I was wondering why the rate of manufacture was so slow on these. For instance, the serial number on my 1922 dated pistol is only 2562, which means that between when they started production, in late 1917 (or more likely 1918), they only managed to turn out two thousand guns in four years or so. Does the Kongsberg Colten book mention why so few were produced between when they started making them and WWII?
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:17 PM
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Stan, You have an amazing collection and first class taste. Thanks for sharing both pics and knowledge. I have passed on a few matching Nazi produced guns with no Nazi proof holding out for a Nazi proofed gun. Big mistake. I have none instead.
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Old 10-20-2019, 05:43 PM
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Thanks for the informative post. I recently managed to acquire a Kongsberg Colt in 97% condition and am thrilled to finally have one.

I was wondering why the rate of manufacture was so slow on these. For instance, the serial number on my 1922 dated pistol is only 2562, which means that between when they started production, in late 1917 (or more likely 1918), they only managed to turn out two thousand guns in four years or so. Does the Kongsberg Colten book mention why so few were produced between when they started making them and WWII?
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Stan, You have an amazing collection and first class taste. Thanks for sharing both pics and knowledge. I have passed on a few matching Nazi produced guns with no Nazi proof holding out for a Nazi proofed gun. Big mistake. I have none instead.
Thank you All for the kind remarks.

Highpower3006,

Not sure why the Norwegian production figures are this way.? There may be information in KONGSBERG-COLTEN, but it is written in Norwegian,---for me it is best used like a "Pointy-Talky".

Best Regards,

vette,

There are pictures of a nice late 1945 Norwegian outside of the 920 Waffenamt Pistols,---will try to put them up here. (Many of us regret Pistols we did Not acquire !)

Best Regards,

P.S. Here's the Waffenamt 1945 with that special 1941 for color contrast.

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Old 10-21-2019, 07:31 AM
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Just saw "the King's Choice" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King%27s_Choice). In it Crown Prince Olav is packing a M1914. I was just wondering if he actual did carry a M1914 during this adventure and if so what was its serial number?
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:18 AM
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Here's that nice late 1945 Norwegian outside of the 920 Waffenamt Pistols.


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Old 10-28-2019, 06:04 AM
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Last year I was tempted to get another 1914 Kongsberg, it was one of the 920 with the waffenamt applied, unfortunately they asked what at the time I considered far too much for it (the equivalent of about 6,200 $), so I kept my 1923 made.
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Old 10-28-2019, 07:48 AM
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Here is another '45 dated non german marked 1914 slightly younger than stan2's example.
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Old 10-28-2019, 08:57 PM
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Last year I was tempted to get another 1914 Kongsberg, it was one of the 920 with the waffenamt applied, unfortunately they asked what at the time I considered far too much for it (the equivalent of about 6,200 $), so I kept my 1923 made.
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Here is another '45 dated non german marked 1914 slightly younger than stan2's example.
Sergio and twh,

Nice Norwegians (and pictures)!

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Here's the barrel markings for the Pistol in post #15.


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